fathom Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 10:32 PM) Good teams would of buried Blackburn when they had to chance and not leaving too many runners in scoring position. This team has no killer instincts at all. We were up 3 going into bottom of the 9th. This game falls on Jenks/Santos, no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:32 PM) Something the first half of this season is to not trust anything with this team, good or bad. It's 3 losses...sure it sucks, but I GUARANTEE you that if the division comes down to 2 games in the end, there will be plenty of other chances we blew. I would circle this date as the turning point of the fall. I didn't trust this team when they went 26-5, why should I start now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamtheHBOMB Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 I side with Milkman -- Bobby needs to shave off that nasty bush on his chin. f***ing gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamtheHBOMB Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:33 PM) I would circle this date as the turning point of the fall. I didn't trust this team when they went 26-5, why should I start now. Dude, you are f***ing hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:33 PM) We were up 3 going into bottom of the 9th. This game falls on Jenks/Santos, no one else. Should of been up by at least 6 or 7 runs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 10:33 PM) I would circle this date as the turning point of the fall. I didn't trust this team when they went 26-5, why should I start now. Oh, it could completely be the turning point. I think the turning point was more likely the Peavy injury, to be honest. The ripple effect that' going to have not only on the starting rotation, but on our ability to improve our offense, is what will keep us behind the Twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) Most people (I think, intelligently) see the Twins as the real threat to this team, not the Tigers. We lost ground to them. You're right. The season is over. The Twins gained 3 games worth of ground. Yep. Now that I think about it, the Sox now go to Seattle, and even though they've lost 4 straight, they're still a juggernaut. Why? Because Rios blows c***, Jenks swallows, and Santos is a rookie. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:35 PM) You're right. The season is over. The Twins gained 3 games worth of ground. Yep. Now that I think about it, the Sox now go to Seattle, and even though they've lost 4 straight, they're still a juggernaut. Why? Because Rios blows c***, Jenks swallows, and Santos is a rookie. Totally. Haven't seen you around here in a while, welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamtheHBOMB Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 This was not a TEAM loss. The team actually played well - battled back and put us in the position to win. The loss is on two people -- Jenks and Santos. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:35 PM) You're right. The season is over. The Twins gained 3 games worth of ground. Yep. Now that I think about it, the Sox now go to Seattle, and even though they've lost 4 straight, they're still a juggernaut. Why? Because Rios blows c***, Jenks swallows, and Santos is a rookie. Totally. Why don't you read the rest of my posts, guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 03:30 PM) Again, it's not 1 game, it's 3 straight games....against the Twins, after the all-star break.....not a good trend to be setting. And this is a marathon, not a race, which means that there are 159 other games that eventually get factored into the equation. So stop with "the sky is falling!" routine already. It's obnoxious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 What is worrisome about this series is that if Mauer Hardy, Young, and Kubel all are swinging the bats well, the Twins offense is going to take off. They'll eventually trade for a starting pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA32R Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 02:35 PM) Oh, it could completely be the turning point. I think the turning point was more likely the Peavy injury, to be honest. The ripple effect that' going to have not only on the starting rotation, but on our ability to improve our offense, is what will keep us behind the Twins. ^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:35 PM) Oh, it could completely be the turning point. I think the turning point was more likely the Peavy injury, to be honest. The ripple effect that' going to have not only on the starting rotation, but on our ability to improve our offense, is what will keep us behind the Twins. I see the Peavy incident as Kenny Williams trading our best prospects for below average pitching at the deadline this year. Don't get me started on that rant. Kenny should stand pat on starting pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 10:36 PM) This was not a TEAM loss. The team actually played well - battled back and put us in the position to win. The loss is on two people -- Jenks and Santos. That's it. Juan Pierre as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wedmesday Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Just to put things in perspective: as unbelievably gut-wrenchingly bad as this game was, the Tigers just got swept out of Cleveland. Weird weekend in the AL Central. Considering where we ended up in the standings, I would stay off the ledge until you see how the team reacts to this nut-cruncher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:32 PM) Good teams would of buried Blackburn when they had to chance and not leaving too many runners in scoring position. This team has no killer instincts at all. First off, Friday the Sox had a chance to become the first team since 2001 in MLB to have 2 ten game winning streaks the same season. They blew that game, but did give themselves a pretty good shot in the 9th. Last night it was a 1 run game. Today they blew it, but in reality, Jenks blew it. A 3 run lead in the ninth should be automatic. I don't think they are as good as they have been playing before these 3 losses, and the fact ist they were 26-5. If the Sox had the attitude you claim they have, they would have mailed this season in long ago. Now remove Jenks as the closer, get another bat and if you think Minnesota or Detroit, a team that was swept by Cleveland is better, good for you, but I'll take my chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:37 PM) I see the Peavy incident as Kenny Williams trading our best prospects for below average pitching at the deadline this year. Don't get me started on that rant. Kenny should stand pat on starting pitching. Those "prospects" suck and still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Okay so serious question... Should Jenks be used as trade bait? I bet he would thrive in the NL. Should be be flipped to an NL contender for some prospects that could add to a package for a trade to get a LH bat or another starting pitcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wedmesday Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:39 PM) Okay so serious question... Should Jenks be used as trade bait? I bet he would thrive in the NL. Should be be flipped to an NL contender for some prospects that could add to a package for a trade to get a LH bat or another starting pitcher? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:39 PM) Okay so serious question... Should Jenks be used as trade bait? I bet he would thrive in the NL. Should be be flipped to an NL contender for some prospects that could add to a package for a trade to get a LH bat or another starting pitcher? They tried to trade him in the offseason and had no takers. Why would anybody want him now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 If you trade Jenks, then you expose our bullpen even more. Let's face it, this team has very little depth at basically every position. If Jenks is going to suck the rest of this year, we're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:39 PM) Okay so serious question... Should Jenks be used as trade bait? I bet he would thrive in the NL. Should be be flipped to an NL contender for some prospects that could add to a package for a trade to get a LH bat or another starting pitcher? lol. I wouldn't trade a used tampon for Bobby if I'm another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:39 PM) Okay so serious question... Should Jenks be used as trade bait? I bet he would thrive in the NL. Should be be flipped to an NL contender for some prospects that could add to a package for a trade to get a LH bat or another starting pitcher? 300 lb guys with diminishing stuff who have lots of leg problems and make $7.5 million generally don't have much trade value. Edited July 18, 2010 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 03:36 PM) Haven't seen you around here in a while, welcome back. Thanks. I'm just sick of it. It's the reason I stopped coming to these boards. There are times when you need to be optimistic (7 games against Seattle in the next 13 days or so day [if my math is right, which it probably isn't]) and pessimistic (getting swept in 4 games @ Cleveland). Let's say we just got swept by Cleveland and the Twins gained 3 games on us. I think these boards, these GREAT boards that some of you dopes are killing, would be even worse than what they are right now. Edited July 18, 2010 by whitesoxbrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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