SoxAce Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:25 AM) Hudson/Viciedo/Flowers/Morel for Jackson/Upton. Let's do it. Let's not get carried away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:31 AM) Let's not get carried away. Ya, because I clearly think that is a feasible possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 It's up on FoxSports. Sox on the verge of landing Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I think things are a little more open this trade season with the sox due to the fact MLB Network filming a reality show on the sox. I thought they said the show would also show trade deadlne negotioations. Rosenthal also happens to be a "Insider" for the network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:32 AM) Ya, because I clearly think that is a feasible possibility. Sorry, I've seen enough ridiculous proposals from posters who weren't kidding, I almost rule out the sarcastic ones. Edited July 30, 2010 by J.Reedfan8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:33 AM) It's up on FoxSports. Sox on the verge of landing Jackson Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pktmotion Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:33 AM) It's up on FoxSports. Sox on the verge of landing Jackson This is going to be such a dumb move if Hudson's involved. I'm not against trading for EJ, since I said SP can always be used as offseason tradebait. But for crying out loud, Oswalt went to the Phillies for Happ/Gose?/Villar? and Houston kicked in $11 M. Kenny, be smart don't be a retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I don't really get it. Why the hell not just move Hudson and more for Haren? Here's a couple scenarios going through my head based on how the Sox do things.... 1.) The price for Dunn was Hudson + 1 of Flowers/Danks/Morel. The Sox really like those 3 guys and can get Jackson for Hudson and a lesser prospect, in which case they flip Jackson for Dunn and get him "cheaper." 2.) They keep Jackson and Williams believes he can be dominant based on his stuff + extensive discussions with Don Cooper who has persuaded the FO that he can make something great out of Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:22 AM) No, no, no, no, no. Not Hudson + prospect. I wouldn't even do Hudson for Jackson straight up. But I guess if the Nats want Jackson + prospect (non Morel), then I guess I'd do it if it meant our total loss was no more than Hudson + Flowers + Danks + low level guys. No Viciedo or Morel in either trade. You have a weird obsession with Morel it seems. Because from reading all these threads I don't think you'd trade him for Pujols. Also trading Hudson for Jackson would be a mistake for the reasons everyone else has already covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Not sure what to think of this, but if the Sox DO move Hudson, it's going to have to be for a SP with Peavy out. I'm also getting the impression that the Sox aren't as high on Hudson as they've led us to believe. Especially considering that Jackson is having a pretty crappy year and has had his share of mediocre/poor seasons over the course of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 As if you're not all freaked out already there's this: Jackson over his last 5 starts since his 149 pitch no hitter: 27.1 IP, 19K/15BB, 7.24 ERA, 1.94 WHIP .330/.412/.496/.908 Scary, scary stuff. Please, please, please don't let this happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) I'll say this.. Don Cooper LOVES Edwin Jackson. Not like... Loves the guy. Maybe he sees something he wants to tweak. And looking at that 149 pitch no-hitter Kal posted... ya... not good. I'm Huddy's biggest fan and would hate to see him go in any case.. but def. not for Jackson. Edited July 30, 2010 by J.Reedfan8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 KW and company have always coveted Jackson... I wouldn't be suprised if they keep him and think that they can turn him into the 2011 version of 2005 Jose Contresas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:46 AM) Not sure what to think of this, but if the Sox DO move Hudson, it's going to have to be for a SP with Peavy out. I'm also getting the impression that the Sox aren't as high on Hudson as they've led us to believe. Especially considering that Jackson is having a pretty crappy year and has had his share of mediocre/poor seasons over the course of his career. I dunno, they seemed to be very high on him from everything that has been in the papers and from the little the mentioned him in The Club. They moved him through the minors very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 11:48 PM) I dunno, they seemed to be very high on him from everything that has been in the papers and from the little the mentioned him in The Club. They moved him through the minors very quickly. Keep in mind that what officially comes out of the Sox front office is intended to serve the interests of the organization, and not necessarily to reflect reality. They very well may have been talking up Hudson to increase his trade value. And if they're willing to trade him for a veteran in the middle of a really bad year and with a prior history of bad years, you have to wonder what they really think of Hudson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Source says the second prospect is another pitcher. I bet it's Torres since he was pulled after 75 pitches tonight. http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/19890599061 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I'm cool with this as long as Hudson is not involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I could see Torres as the center piece with a few AA or one of the trio. But Torres+Hudson would be a rip and don't see it happening. Unless we get Laroche too and even then, not so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pktmotion Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:52 AM) Source says the second prospect is another pitcher. I bet it's Torres since he was pulled after 75 pitches tonight. http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/19890599061 sh*t flavored icing with your sh*t cake? sure why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:52 AM) Source says the second prospect is another pitcher. I bet it's Torres since he was pulled after 75 pitches tonight. http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/19890599061 Hudson and Torres for Jackson. I do not like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 11:57 PM) I'm cool with this as long as Hudson is not involved. Jackson-for-Hudson seems like a lateral move to me. I don't see the point, especially with Hudson being a lot cheaper for the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (kev211 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:41 AM) You have a weird obsession with Morel it seems. Because from reading all these threads I don't think you'd trade him for Pujols. Also trading Hudson for Jackson would be a mistake for the reasons everyone else has already covered. Not wanting to trade Morel in an Edwin Jackson deal is completely reasonable, but don't compare Edwin Jackson to Albert Pujols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:59 AM) Jackson-for-Hudson seems like a lateral move to me. I don't see the point, especially with Hudson being a lot cheaper for the next few years. Exactly. But looking ahead to 2011, wow. Peavy (hopefully healthy), Danks, Floyd, Jackson, Buehrle with Hudson/Sale waiting in the wings. Me likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 02:00 AM) Not wanting to trade Morel in an Edwin Jackson deal is completely reasonable, but don't compare Edwin Jackson to Albert Pujols. No necessarily this deal, but everything I read from you makes it seems like Morel should be completely untouchable which is odd because he isn't a cant miss prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 02:02 AM) Exactly. But looking ahead to 2011, wow. Peavy (hopefully healthy), Danks, Floyd, Jackson, Buehrle with Hudson/Sale waiting in the wings. Me likes. Except you have to pay Jackson 8.35 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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