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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:23 PM)
I think the trade really suggests the Sox believe Sale will be ready much sooner than most expect.

 

Half the world doesn't like his mechanics however.

 

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I already posted in the minor league catch all thread , but the Sox traded Hudson and Holmberg for Jackson. ..I don't know anything about this Jackson guy, what's the big deal?!?! :unsure:

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QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:20 PM)
This trade suggests two things:

 

(1) The Sox weren't nearly as high on Hudson as they'd led us to believe (or believe that his mechanics make him injury-prone).

 

(2) Kenny subscribes to the school of thought that making a deal at the deadline (even if it doesn't really help the team much) has a positive psychological impact on the team. (I imagine that the Griffey trade of two years ago would fall into this category as well.)

 

3) We have more money to play around with this year and next than previously thought

 

4) KW is planning on trading someone completely unexpected to create salary space (Danks/Floyd/Buehrle)

 

5) Our chances to win the next two seasons are better with Jackson

 

6) Cooper likes Jackson more than Hudson

 

7) There is some concern about Peavy coming back 100% in 2011 and being ready from April 1st

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QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 11:17 AM)
Damn I just found it, Viciedo changed his agents from Torres to Boras.

 

Completely missed it.

Which is why he'll be gone in the next trade. A bat is coming it will be a very good one.

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@TBrownYahoo: Source: White Sox hope to acquire Dunn without trading Jackson, but Nats desire Jackson.

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QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:25 PM)
If we somehow do get Dunn, Alexei-Rios-Konerko-Dunn-CQ is suddenly a pretty scary lineup to get through.

 

Beckham and Viciedo lurking at the bottom can be dangerous as well...

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:23 PM)
@TBrownYahoo - Source: White Sox hope to acquire Dunn without trading Jackson, but Nats desire Jackson.

 

If this happens, Kw should be given a crown for being the king gm. If we get Jackson and Dunn for prospects (I don't care how many or who. Although I really want to hold onto Viciedo.) Other GMs will be in a uproar.

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QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 02:09 PM)
Because Jackson's not going anywhere. Flipping him really makes no sense on many levels.

Sure it makes sense.

 

The Sox can get mediocre SP - cheaper than Jackson cost - to spot start in the 5th spot and deal Jackson for a hitter.

 

They'll have a logjam in 2011 if Jackson stays (and Freddy stays).

 

 

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I'll wait to see how things pan out, if Jackson stays or is part of another deal. I'm not a fan though of trading Hudson for Jackson by itself. If he goes to the Nats for Dunn, and the sox add another arm maybe.

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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:26 PM)
Which is why he'll be gone in the next trade. A bat is coming it will be a very good one.

 

I don't think KW is ready to trade Viciedo or Mitchell, no matter how desperate things get with Dunn.

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:23 PM)
@TBrownYahoo - Source: White Sox hope to acquire Dunn without trading Jackson, but Nats desire Jackson.

Well that would imply a Viciedo + Santos and/or prospect(s). I just don't see how the Nationals would trade us Dunn without getting Viciedo or Hudson as the centerpiece.

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Starting to think that the fast press releases, etc were all to call DC's bluff. Act like maybe we are going to hold onto Jackson.

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QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 02:27 PM)
If this happens, Kw should be given a crown for being the king gm. If we get Jackson and Dunn for prospects (I don't care how many or who. Although I really want to hold onto Viciedo.) Other GMs will be in a uproar.

 

I have to disagree. If this trade isn't essential in getting Dunn, then it was awful. I'm really not that sure how much better Jackson is than Hudson now, let alone over the next 6 very cheap years.

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The fact that we didn't seek to get Laroche in the deal makes it clear to me Kenny intends to get a bat in the end game. I'd honestly be happier keeping Jackson (who put up a 3.62 ERA for the Tigers in 219 innings last year) and doing something else to pick up Scott or Berkman.

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I'm hearing that the deal is Hudson/Holmberg for Jackson ...where are these other names coming from?!?! I'm so confused ..someone PLEASE fill me in!!!

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Buehrle, Floyd, Jackson, Linebrink, Peavy, Pierre, Ramirez, Rios, Teahen, Thornton, Viciedo = $76.45M in 2011

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QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 06:30 PM)
I have to disagree. If this trade isn't essential in getting Dunn, then it was awful. I'm really not that sure how much better Jackson is than Hudson now, let alone over the next 6 very cheap years.

If we keep Jackson and get Dunn, we have a World Series built team. Overpay, probably, but it's hard to define anything like that as awful.

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QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:30 PM)
The fact that we didn't seek to get Laroche in the deal makes it clear to me Kenny intends to get a bat in the end game. I'd honestly be happier keeping Jackson (who put up a 3.62 ERA for the Tigers in 219 innings last year) and doing something else to pick up Scott or Berkman.

i think that's a very good point, if KW was done he would have asked for Laroche, who likely wouldn't have come very expensive

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QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:25 PM)
If we somehow do get Dunn, Alexei-Rios-Konerko-KOTSAY-Dunn-CQ is suddenly a pretty scary lineup to get through.

 

fixed :unsure:

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QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:30 PM)
I'm hearing that the deal is Hudson/Holmberg for Jackson ...where are these other names coming from?!?! I'm so confused ..someone PLEASE fill me in!!!

There is a lot of rumor noise out there that the Sox are still after a bat to upgrade at DH (or other positions potentially), and that one possible way to do that is to trade Jackson to the Nationals for Dunn in some deal.

 

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Does anyone else find it odd that the Sox are not getting any money in return from Arizona? Usually the Sox get money back in a trade and IMO this is a tell that Jackson is going to be move for another player(s).

 

Thoughts?

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QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:30 PM)
I'm hearing that the deal is Hudson/Holmberg for Jackson ...where are these other names coming from?!?! I'm so confused ..someone PLEASE fill me in!!!

 

As of right now there is no other names. Hudson and Holmberg were traded for Edwin Jackson.

 

That is all for now.

 

Rest is speculation.

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