kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:35 PM) Yep. Then he came in the dugout and slammed his mitt down at the bench. Not sure I want to see that out of him. Fans always find that appeasing. They think he really cared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 04:41 PM) Fans always find that appeasing. They think he really cared. I just don't want him to be a headcase and freak out about games, especially ones that don't matter anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 10:28 PM) Another bullpen collapse. For the love of Tulo, shut down Santos and Sale, Ozzie! Pitching Sale on consecutive days is just so f***ing retarded right now by the Sox organization. I see that Sale got introduced to bullpen failure that has plauged the Sox this season. They all have to join in with the giving up of the big bombs late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Infante sure looked real good in this inning. Has a very, very solid looking change-up that I don't know if the Tigers hitters even made contact with. Was throwing it about 86, which is 11 MPH slower than his fastball, which is "supposedly" the optimal speed difference between a FB and CH. Not sure why, but that's just what I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 09:50 PM) 5 IP, 3 runs, 8 hits, 2 walks for Harrell. 5 K's in 5 IP isn't bad, the WHIP still is through the roof. I haven't been impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Really nice inning by Infante. That's the first time I have seen him and I like the difference between his heat and his off speed stuff. It looked like they were having trouble picking up the slow stuff. I wonder how much of a chance he has at filling a Santos type role next year as the first man out of the pen and a garbage man while he learns on the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 10:48 PM) Really nice inning by Infante. That's the first time I have seen him and I like the difference between his heat and his off speed stuff. It looked like they were having trouble picking up the slow stuff. I wonder how much of a chance he has at filling a Santos type role next year as the first man out of the pen and a garbage man while he learns on the job? I am guessing we will have some open bullpen spots to fill don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Wow, fans are booing Manny big time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:46 PM) I see that Sale got introduced to bullpen failure that has plauged the Sox this season. They all have to join in with the giving up of the big bombs late Maybe it's time for the Sox to have a contest "Pitcher for a Day". Somebody in the stands or A ball, instructional league, whatever could just get someone out and not fill the bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Quick and painless in the bottom of the 9th and the Sox drop again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:54 PM) Quick and painless in the bottom of the 9th and the Sox drop again They didn't get the memo they aren't playing the Twins anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:49 PM) Maybe it's time for the Sox to have a contest "Pitcher for a Day". Somebody in the stands or A ball, instructional league, whatever could just get someone out and not fill the bases. Maybe we could pair that up with another promotion, "For every run scored past 3 that the Whitesox score, Alex will donate 100 dollars in loving memory of Ursula." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:49 PM) Wow, fans are booing Manny big time! I wonder how Greg feels about this, being that he hates Manny, but also being that he thinks booing a player is classless and makes our fan base look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:49 PM) I am guessing we will have some open bullpen spots to fill don't you think? I can't see all of the expensive pieces being back. I imagine at least one of Putz, Linebrink, and Jenks won't be back. I wouldn't be surprised if two of them didn't make it back for 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 04:59 PM) I wonder how Greg feels about this, being that he hates Manny, but also being that he thinks booing a player is classless and makes our fan base look bad. Actually I would think he wouldn't care much, if anything embrace it. He is one of the few here who never liked Manny (can't blame him). I thought Manny would be booed in his first at-bat in a sox uni, so I was shocked then. Not so much now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I give DAllen so much credit for stating how big of a disaster the Manny acquisition would be. Needless to say, Manny will not be back next season unless he goes Tulo over the next two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 06:05 PM) I give DAllen so much credit for stating how big of a disaster the Manny acquisition would be. Needless to say, Manny will not be back next season unless he goes Tulo over the next two weeks. I think fans got carried away with putting the savior image on Manny. He can't solve the pen problems. It's at the point where a pen appearance is an automatic loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 06:26 PM) I think fans got carried away with putting the savior image on Manny. He can't solve the pen problems. It's at the point where a pen appearance is an automatic loss. The bullpen sure has sucked lately. But the offense isn't exactly holding its own. In the last 11 games we have scored 3 runs or less in 8 of those games. In half of those we have scored 2 runs or less. So rotten bullpen + rotten offense + not so good defense = April/May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 06:05 PM) I give DAllen so much credit for stating how big of a disaster the Manny acquisition would be. Needless to say, Manny will not be back next season unless he goes Tulo over the next two weeks. Thing is we fell out of the race so rapidly that Manny didn't get the chance to help or hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 05:42 PM) Thing is we fell out of the race so rapidly that Manny didn't get the chance to help or hurt us. Yeah, we went 7-0 with Manny to start, and then now we are like 2-9 or something. I didn't see people saying we were 7-0 because of him, so why are people saying we are 2-9 because of him? He hasn't been on the team long enough to have that big of an impact. It was a bad acquisition in the end, but not because of anything he has done or hasn't done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 06:59 PM) Yeah, we went 7-0 with Manny to start, and then now we are like 2-9 or something. I didn't see people saying we were 7-0 because of him, so why are people saying we are 2-9 because of him? He hasn't been on the team long enough to have that big of an impact. It was a bad acquisition in the end, but not because of anything he has done or hasn't done. Because Manny has yet to get an important hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 06:59 PM) Yeah, we went 7-0 with Manny to start, and then now we are like 2-9 or something. I didn't see people saying we were 7-0 because of him, so why are people saying we are 2-9 because of him? He hasn't been on the team long enough to have that big of an impact. It was a bad acquisition in the end, but not because of anything he has done or hasn't done. I agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 how many games do you think the sox will win the rest of the season? im hoping 5 , is it possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 06:59 PM) Yeah, we went 7-0 with Manny to start, and then now we are like 2-9 or something. I didn't see people saying we were 7-0 because of him, so why are people saying we are 2-9 because of him? He hasn't been on the team long enough to have that big of an impact. It was a bad acquisition in the end, but not because of anything he has done or hasn't done. Its $4 million the Sox could have spent on things to improve the roster in the future that will not be available. When, this winter, KW cries about being "stretched" financially, remember he found $4 million to piss away on a longshot. I don't think Manny had anything to do with the wins and probably not anything to do with at least most of the losses. Maybe in the first Minnesota game if he would have done anything the game might have gone down differently but maybe not. If you are paying someone what Manny is being paid, they should have an effect on winning and losing. Manny is not doing anything, and while maybe the losing isn't his fault, shows he isn't doing what was expected. So it was a bad acquisition based on the fact he didn't improve the team. Maybe its too much to ask one player, for one month, especially coming off an injury, but it certainly did not take a genius to see how this was going to go, and there were plenty of people ripping anyone who said he wasn't a difference maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 07:23 PM) how many games do you think the sox will win the rest of the season? im hoping 5 , is it possible? I'm hoping zero. The higher the draft pick, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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