The Ginger Kid Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I laughed typing their respective ERAs and records. Start of a 13 game win streak to finish with 92 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 let's hope the humiliation doesn't continue tonight this time being Gio shutting the Sox out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Two nice curveballs on display tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 Sox's lineup: Lillibridge 2b A. Ramirez ss Rios cf Konerko 1b M. Ramirez dh Jones lf Quentin rf Castro c Morel 3b Floyd p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 please win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 07:55 PM) please win A part of me is kinda interested to see us go into the kind of tailspin that somebody has to take a fall for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I agree about the tailspin. Either Kenny or Ozzie needs to take a hit for this season. and when you're comparing the curveballs and ERAs of Floyd and Gio, don't forget to compare their salaries. Williams is such a genius that he traded this kid twice. Once wasn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 07:31 PM) I agree about the tailspin. Either Kenny or Ozzie needs to take a hit for this season. and when you're comparing the curveballs and ERAs of Floyd and Gio, don't forget to compare their salaries. Williams is such a genius that he traded this kid twice. Once wasn't enough. Do you really think that Gio Gonzalez would have an ERA below 4 (let alone the 3.47 he's at) pitching half of his games for the White Sox? Surprise surprise, he's been phenomenal at home (2.70 with a completely unsustainable .229 BABIP) and a bit more human on the road (4.22 ERA, a somewhat unlucky but closer to reality .322 BABIP, and 1.44 WHIP). I would say his road splits are closer to his natural talent level than his overall numbers indicate because he's pitching in a great pitching environment for half of his games. The first time he traded Gio Gonzalez, he got Jim Thome. I'd say the Sox won that one. The time he traded for Gio Gonzalez, he also got Gavin Floyd, and gave up Freddy Garcia. I'd say the Sox won that one. The second time he traded Gio Gonzalez, he got Nick Swisher. He had the right intentions, but that trade eventually ended up as terrible. I also like that you want to compare salaries for some reason. According to FanGraphs WAR calculation, Gavin Floyd has been the 18th best pitcher in the majors this year. Gavin Floyd is good, and he's dirt cheap. At the very least, you could have said something along the lines of comparing Buehrle and Gonzalez's salary, or Peavy and Gonzalez's salary. Gavin Floyd has been everything the Sox have asked for and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 damn, floyd is hurt...screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 What happened to Gavin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 So Gavin got pulled on a 2-2 count? Please tell me it's a leg injury and not arm related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 it happened in warmups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 08:20 PM) So Gavin got pulled on a 2-2 count? Please tell me it's a leg injury and not arm related. We don't know as of yet. The replay on the last pitch he made was inconclusive, but Stone said he saw him grab his right tricep when he was in the dugout. That's all we really know at this point. Edited September 21, 2010 by Thad Bosley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Jones looks hella rickety out there. I think that Pierre might be the better fielder, despite the noodle arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Maybe 4 pitches. I turned it on to see Pena warming up with a 2-2 count. Shut em down Oz, anybody that needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 03:22 AM) We don't know as of yet. The replay on the last pitch he made was inconclusive, but Stone said he saw him grab his right tricep when he was in the dugout. That's all we really know at this point. Ugh, that's not good. Can we just forfeit the rest of our games and save the team from everything that can possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 01:12 AM) A part of me is kinda interested to see us go into the kind of tailspin that somebody has to take a fall for. I really think Oz is gone after this season. It all makes too much sense. He's off to Florida where he can work in the NL. He'll love Florida and nobody cares about baseball there so he'll be much more calm. Sox will get LaRussa likely; Torre if they can offer him huge bucks and if LaRussa doesn't want to leave St. Looie. Edited September 21, 2010 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Floyd injured is just another pile of what we have had this season for the most part. I just hope it is not serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Did Floyd just walk off the mound, or did Herm come out to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 07:24 PM) I really think Oz is gone after this season. It all makes too much sense. He's off to Florida where he can work in the NL. He'll love Florida and nobody cares about baseball there so he'll be much more calm. Sox will get LaRussa likely; Torre if they can offer him huge bucks and if LaRussa doesn't want to leave St. Looie. Torre will go to the Mets, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 02:20 AM) Do you really think that Gio Gonzalez would have an ERA below 4 (let alone the 3.47 he's at) pitching half of his games for the White Sox? Surprise surprise, he's been phenomenal at home (2.70 with a completely unsustainable .229 BABIP) and a bit more human on the road (4.22 ERA, a somewhat unlucky but closer to reality .322 BABIP, and 1.44 WHIP). I would say his road splits are closer to his natural talent level than his overall numbers indicate because he's pitching in a great pitching environment for half of his games. The first time he traded Gio Gonzalez, he got Jim Thome. I'd say the Sox won that one. The time he traded for Gio Gonzalez, he also got Gavin Floyd, and gave up Freddy Garcia. I'd say the Sox won that one. The second time he traded Gio Gonzalez, he got Nick Swisher. He had the right intentions, but that trade eventually ended up as terrible. I also like that you want to compare salaries for some reason. According to FanGraphs WAR calculation, Gavin Floyd has been the 18th best pitcher in the majors this year. Gavin Floyd is good, and he's dirt cheap. At the very least, you could have said something along the lines of comparing Buehrle and Gonzalez's salary, or Peavy and Gonzalez's salary. Gavin Floyd has been everything the Sox have asked for and more. I also think Gio would have been on par with all of our othr pitchers at Comiskey. Heck he already k'd two of the first three tonite so it don't matter where he throws if they can't hit the ball. I have no problem with the Floyd trade or the Thome deal and if not mistaken didn't both Floyd and YTome come at the same time from Philly? So that's one deal. Swisher's was a flop. I don't think he traded for them separately but maybe I am wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 08:24 PM) Floyd injured is just another pile of what we have had this season for the most part. I just hope it is not serious On the replay of the last pitch he threw, you wouldn't have known that he hurt himself. There was no body language to suggest as much. Certainly nothing like what Peavy displayed on his last pitch of the season. So from that standpoint, I'm hoping it's not all that serious. Edited September 21, 2010 by Thad Bosley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 03:29 AM) On the replay of the last pitch he threw, you wouldn't have known that he hurt himself. There was no body language to suggest as much. Certainly nothing like what Peavy displayed on his last pitch of the season. So from that standpoint, I'm hoping it's not all that serious either. Maybe a strain or pulled muscle is all. Let's hope so anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 03:29 AM) On the replay of the last pitch he threw, you wouldn't have known that he hurt himself. There was no body language to suggest as much. Certainly nothing like what Peavy displayed on his last pitch of the season. So from that standpoint, I'm hoping it's not all that serious. Hopefully it's a back strain, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 didn't his hip break down around this point last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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