fathom Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 05:25 PM) No way would I move Sale even if it meant getting rid of Rios' contract I'd do that in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:23 PM) If we did acquire Rasmus, I can guarantee that Rios would not be kept in CF. agreed. i would do matt and edwin for colby, we need a cf and he was a pretty productive hitter as a 23yr old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 6 pages and no Colby Rasmus stats for the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 So we're going to send Jackson and Thornton and prospects for St Louis' prospect who didn't develop into what they thought they had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I love me some Colby Rasmus, but that just tells me Viciedo is surely not going to see time with the Sox in 2011. I would guess Quentin would then traded off to Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) we need a cf and he was a pretty productive hitter as a 23yr old This sounds like an exact description of Alex Rios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) I'd do that in a heartbeat. Sale is just 22 years old who is the only pitcher in our system with ace potential to go along with 3 plus pitches at a young age. I wouldn't want to get rid of a player of the caliber just to dump off Rios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Jackson/Thornton for Rasmus, then Quentin to ATL for Beachy makes a lot of sense. Sox get a lot younger and a lot more affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:24 PM) But it would still be a weakness. So move him over and put Rasmus in CF, I would prefer that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 And what do we do with RIOS ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 05:30 PM) Sale is just 22 years old who is the only pitcher in our system with ace potential to go along with 3 plus pitches at a young age. I wouldn't want to get rid of a player of the caliber just to dump off Rios. I think Rios' contract is just too much of a killer to our payroll the next 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) So move him over and put Rasmus in CF, I would prefer that anyway. Fangraphs actually thinks Rasmus is a below average CF, slightly worse than Rios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:29 PM) This sounds like an exact description of Alex Rios. except that rios is no longer a Cf, he has proven that he will never reach his so called potential and he is grossly overpaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:35 PM) Fangraphs actually thinks Rasmus is a below average CF, slightly worse than Rios. I guess I am wrong and adding Rasmus would not improve our OF defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) I think Rios' contract is just too much of a killer to our payroll the next 3 years. Yeah I completely agree, we can only hope that Rios can bounce back for next yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:31 PM) Jackson/Thornton for Rasmus, then Quentin to ATL for Beachy makes a lot of sense. Sox get a lot younger and a lot more affordable. That would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) That would be amazing. Still need to remove another starter after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:40 PM) Still need to remove another starter after that. I'd say Floyd gets moved and Sale gets inserted into the rotation. But that becomes less likely if Thornton gets dealt for Rasmus. I hope Sox aren't f***ing up with Sale's development and stashing him as a setup man of the future which would be really stupid. Edited July 24, 2011 by kapzk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) I'd say Floyd gets moved and Sale gets inserted into the rotation. But that becomes less likely if Thornton gets dealt for Rasmus. I hope Sox are f***ing up with Sale's development and stashing him as a setup man of the future which would be really stupid. Hell, moving Sale into the rotation would require removing 2 starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:42 PM) Hell, moving Sale into the rotation would require removing 2 starters. Hahaha rite forgot about Beachsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Any1 else think Sale's development into his full potential is getting hindered. I know a few think it already is with him in the bullpen this year. But its really looking like we are just gonna keep stunting his development by keeping him in the bullpen forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) Any1 else think Sale's development into his full potential is getting hindered. I know a few think it already is with him in the bullpen this year. But its really looking like we are just gonna keep stunting his development by keeping him in the bullpen forever. I'm still as in-between as Adam Dunn on that issue. Sale really struggled to get his release point down early in the season and was as wild as you can be because of it. That was bad. He's not getting innings, that's bad (I still hope they AFL him). But, lately at least, he's been effectively getting people out. He pitched what, 3+ innings in that extra inning affair in KC and was really effective, even with the offspeed stuff, until he finally tired out and lost the control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 11:14 AM) who are you talking about? The only decent player in our farm system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 11:26 AM) Maybe a fresh start is what Rasmus needs. This is the last organization for that unless it's a pitcher. We carry mental midgets by the bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Magglio Ordonez hit .307 with an .889 OPS in a White Sox uniform, he was a pretty good "pure hitter". Not sure I'm ready to put Viciedo ahead of Maggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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