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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 08:42 PM)
Yes and no. I understand the need for transfers after the mass exodus of transfers out, but we did use to tease heads about Iowa St. taking on so many transfers.

5th yr senior filling a use it or lose it scholly, completely different than the Cosby transfer. I also get the teasing but it's way too smart for Illinois to patch up this team with some solid guys for just next year.

 

 

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LeBryan Nash, Markel Brown, and Marcus Smart are all coming back for another year. :angry: :( <_ src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/default_mellow.png" alt=":mellow:">

 

Oklahoma State is going to run away with the Big 12 championship next year.

 

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QUOTE (IowanSoxFan @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 12:37 PM)
LeBryan Nash, Markel Brown, and Marcus Smart are all coming back for another year. :angry: :( <_ src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/default_mellow.png" alt=":mellow:">

 

Oklahoma State is going to run away with the Big 12 championship next year.

 

I never understand why top-5 picks would stay, your stock almost always drops the next year (Blake Griffin is the only exception that comes to mind in recent history). This is especially true for Smart since he's not really a stellar prospect and next year's class is loaded.

 

Commentary on this topic from ESPN Insider:

 

That Oklahoma State freshman Marcus Smart shocked the world by reportedly deciding to return to school instead of being one of the top picks in the 2013 NBA draft is equal parts awesome, refreshing and baffling. But no matter how you look at it, there's a good chance the decision will cost the Cowboys' point guard millions of dollars.

 

Here's why: If Smart had entered the draft, he would have certainly been a top 5 pick and quite possibly even a top 2 pick. Had he gone No. 1, which conceivably could have happened if Orlando ends up with the top pick of the draft, Smart would have been guaranteed roughly $10.5 million over the first two years of his deal with team options at around $12.5 million over the next two years. Had he gone No. 2, he'd have been guaranteed roughly $9.5 million over the first two years with annual team options worth over $5 million each of the next two seasons.

 

By pushing his entry into the NBA back, Smart's draft stock can basically only go one way -- down. And with an incredible group projected to be selected amongst the top picks in the 2014 lottery (Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Julius Randle, Aaron Gordon) and talented point guards like Andrew Harrison, Jahii Carson and possibly Shane Larkin all likely entering the draft as well, Smart runs the risk of slipping to the back of the lottery.

 

And if he gets injured or fails to improve in his second year at Oklahoma State? Not saying that will happen, but if it does he may not even be a lottery pick in 2014. As far as money is concerned, that'd be devastating. For comparison's sake, all one has to do is look at the last pick of the 2012 draft lottery -- John Henson of the Milwaukee Bucks. Henson is guaranteed just over $3.7 million over his first two years in the league (per HoopsHype.com), with team options worth roughly $5 million combined over the next two seasons. That's a difference of over $11 million from what Smart would have potentially earned with a top 2 selection in 2013.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 01:27 PM)
Have Gary Harris or Adrienne Payne announced yet? They're decisions are going to most directly impact the Big Ten next year. If they stay it's MSU's conference to lose. If they go the field is wide open.

Gary Harris almost has to go.

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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/...eal-sources-say

 

PASADENA, Calif. -- The Atlantic Coast Conference presidents approved Monday a grant of media rights for the league through 2026-27, effectively halting the exodus of any schools to other conferences.

 

The move solidifies the future of the ACC, which had several teams that had been speculated as targets of the Big Ten.

 

The ACC's grant of rights makes it untenable financially for a school to leave, guaranteeing in the 14 years of the deal that a school's media rights, including revenue, for all home games would remain with the ACC regardless of the school's affiliation.

 

The ACC becomes the fourth league with a grant of rights, along with the Big Ten, Pac-12 and Big 12. The SEC is the only conference among the "power five" leagues that does not have a grant of rights.

 

Last year, when the ACC increased its exit fee from $20 million to three times its annual operating budget -- about $52 million -- Maryland and Florida State voted against the increase.

 

Maryland leaves for the Big Ten in 2014 and has filed a lawsuit, claiming it shouldn't be responsible for the new exit fee. The ACC also filed a lawsuit against Maryland, guaranteeing the Terps pay the full amount.

 

"In my opinion, any potential realignment of the Atlantic Coast Conference ended with this vote," Miami athletic director Blake James said. "Today was a great day for the league and for all the members of the league."

 

Multiple ACC schools have been speculated as targets for the Big Ten, if that league decided to expand to 16 schools.

 

With the grant of rights in place at three other power leagues, if the Big Ten wants to add more schools, it would have to target schools from leagues that don't have a grant of rights -- the SEC, the American Athletic Conference (formerly Big East), Mid-American, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt -- or BYU.

 

On July 1, Pittsburgh and Syracuse join as full ACC members while Notre Dame joins in all sports but football. In 2014, Louisville joins the ACC as a full member. The decision applies to those schools as well.

 

The grant of rights coincides with the ACC's TV deal with ESPN through the 2026-27 season. That deal was worth $17 million per school per year, but sources told ESPN last year it is expected to increase to at least $20 million per school per year with the addition of Notre Dame.

 

"These are strong and definitive moves by the ACC and its member schools to further announce our desire to stay together and position ourselves among the top conferences in the country," Cunningham said in a statement. "We look forward to continued talks with the ACC and ESPN on how to best strengthen and position our multi-media package."

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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 08:42 PM)
Yes and no. I understand the need for transfers after the mass exodus of transfers out, but we did use to tease heads about Iowa St. taking on so many transfers.

 

 

Ha, seemed to work out OK.

 

On a totally unrelated note....anyone know anything about Abdel Nader of NIU and formerly of Glenbrook North? He's visiting this weekend. :P

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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 04:48 PM)
Ha, seemed to work out OK.

 

On a totally unrelated note....anyone know anything about Abdel Nader of NIU and formerly of Glenbrook North? He's visiting this weekend. :P

 

He went to Niles North. Saw him a few times in high school. Could definitely score but if he couldn't cut it at NIU, not sure how he is in college.

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QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 04:53 PM)
He is terrible. Not kidding, awful player.

 

Saw he led the country in possession %. It's not like he's a make our break guy for us, I believe he'd be our fourth big.

 

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 06:15 PM)
He went to Niles North. Saw him a few times in high school. Could definitely score but if he couldn't cut it at NIU, not sure how he is in college.

 

He was NIU's leading scorer.

 

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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 06:18 PM)
He was NIU's leading scorer.

 

Just knew he didn't stay. As you said, its not like he'd be your superstar. I could see him fitting in but he has had attitude problems.

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QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 06:20 PM)
Just knew he didn't stay. As you said, its not like he'd be your superstar. I could see him fitting in but he has had attitude problems.

 

We've had a pretty good track record with that at least.

 

 

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 24, 2013 -> 07:17 PM)
Which isn't saying much. They did set the record for worst offensive performance EVER last season.

 

We got Jake Anderson from a bad NIU team and he was an important role player for us. Just hoping for a contributor.

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