kitekrazy Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Maybe the Sox put him in the office in scouting. When you listen to other broadcasts, it increases your baseball IQ. Hawk, not so much. Maybe I got tired of having a cheerleader in the booth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniSox Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) Hawk and Stoney are two totally different baseball personalities. I wonder how Ed Farmer and Stoney would work together. If Hawk and Wimpy can work together again that would be great, (too young to remember why Wimpy left) but really enjoy it when they work together. Edited September 29, 2012 by IlliniSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Stone's ability to analyze correctly is overrated. For every insight, he calls a slider a cutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (IlliniSox @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 12:01 AM) Hawk and Stoney are two totally different baseball personalities. I wonder how Ed Farmer and Stoney would work together. If Hawk and Wimpy can work together again that would be great, (too young to remember why Wimpy left) but really enjoy it when they work together. Â Ed Farmer and Stone did work together for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (SI1020 @ Sep 28, 2012 -> 05:23 PM) I love it how we have such a wonderful consensus on how is and isn't a good baseball announcer. I'm just making an observation so please do not take offense or think that I am singling you out. As for me, I don't believe I've ever had the pleasure of listening to Sutton call a game. Â None taken, but listen to this: Â http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19748777 Â Â I would hate to listen to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 So are Hawk and Stone feuding or not? Somebody said they didn't talk to each other the first two innings? What's the real story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Stone makes the broadcast tolerable. Having Wimpy back reminds me of two old men bantering about nonsense. They might as well discuss their sock drawer. Hawk is already heading into Santo territory with the groans, grunts and nonsense. I don't want a sidekick that enables him to be more of what he already is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 02:47 AM) So are Hawk and Stone feuding or not? Somebody said they didn't talk to each other the first two innings? What's the real story? Â Broadcast tonight was awful. There's clearly something going on in the booth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 03:17 AM) Broadcast tonight was awful. There's clearly something going on in the booth. Â It seemed out of place for Bernstein to ask Stone about coming back, so maybe it was based on hearing something that happened the night before Hawk missed a game. Â I'm not a Stone fan, but I think he'd be more passable as an analyst if he was with a more conventional PBP guy. Hawk is doing the Hawk Show, and in his mind, you're lucky to have the opportunity to sit next to him for three hours every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 03:17 AM) Broadcast tonight was awful. There's clearly something going on in the booth. It could just be that Hawk was just under the weather, but it was odd they weren't speaking to each other at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Joe Crede, the new Steve Lyons .... Make it happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 01:56 PM) Joe Crede, the new Steve Lyons .... Make it happen  If it's an ex player, Aaron Rowand seems more likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Anybody noticing lately that hawk hadn't been calling Steve stonepony anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (JoshPR @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 01:01 PM) Anybody noticing lately that hawk hadn't been calling Steve stonepony anymore? Â I think that was a year ago. Stone said he didn't like it on the radio, so Hawk stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 02:17 AM) Broadcast tonight was awful. There's clearly something going on in the booth. Â I think it's more related to what is going on in the field. These games are painful to watch even when they are winning. There's been a few times I thought Hawk would reject homerism and tell it like it is. In that SCORE interview, I've never heard Stone this cynical and critical concerning the Sox. Â Hawk is very emotional with Sox baseball and it may be getting the best of him. Who knows with his criticism of umpires, his absences may be coming from JR. There's always a lot of speculation and the Sox have become the new Cubs with these kind of stories. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Really? I Tought I heard hawk called him stonepony at the start of the season, maybe I'm wrong. Stone seems to be a lil grumpy at times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 02:04 PM) It seemed out of place for Bernstein to ask Stone about coming back, so maybe it was based on hearing something that happened the night before Hawk missed a game. I'm not a Stone fan, but I think he'd be more passable as an analyst if he was with a more conventional PBP guy. Hawk is doing the Hawk Show, and in his mind, you're lucky to have the opportunity to sit next to him for three hours every day.  That's a great point about the Hawk Show. It is entertaining most of the time, but Stone might feel like he's too good a baseball analyst to be a puppet. I still think the next team should be Hawk/Ozzie if Oz gets the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 01:34 PM) That's a great point about the Hawk Show. It is entertaining most of the time, but Stone might feel like he's too good a baseball analyst to be a puppet. I still think the next team should be Hawk/Ozzie if Oz gets the boot. Â Oh god. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Lets not all be surprised that greg wants to listen to absolute nonsense while watching the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (JoshPR @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 06:08 PM) Really? I Tought I heard hawk called him stonepony at the start of the season, maybe I'm wrong. Stone seems to be a lil grumpy at times... IIRC Hawk stopped calling him Stone Pony this year. I also felt that up until recently they had been getting along better on the air. I don't know if they decided it was in their best interests or if someone above them told them. Obviously that is now gone and we are back to where we were if not worse. I have been a supporter of Hawk but his style has become way too cliched and his ego won't permit anyone besides a yes man to share the booth with him. He ran Wimpy off once in a cruel way, and I thought the Hawk/Wimpy team worked very well. They kept me engaged in tough years similar to Harry and Jimmy over 30 years ago. Steve Stone is too smart and too proud to be anyone's lackey. Maybe it is time to blow up the whole thing and start all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Ozzie can't be a broadcaster...he doesn't speak English! For Christ's sake you'd never understand him. Even worse is the thought of Ozzie with an uncensored microphone in front of him for 3 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I hope Stone stays for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Smart play would be moving Ventura to the booth and out of the dugout go avoid further disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 05:57 PM) Smart play would be moving Ventura to the booth and out of the dugout go avoid further disaster. Â Â Don't feel he'd particularly enjoy that, either. Â Best to return to a front office role and/or assisting Buddy Bell...or just going back to be with his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 30, 2012 -> 05:20 AM) Don't feel he'd particularly enjoy that, either. Best to return to a front office role and/or assisting Buddy Bell...or just going back to be with his family.  You think there's a chance he could quit? I'd be all for letting somebody else try to avoid the collapse next September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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