maxjusttyped Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) What makes you think this? Almost everything I've read has Johnson sitting at 92-93, with the capability to run it up higher than that on occasion. I've watched 3 separate Johnson starts on MiLB.tv this year (including today) and I've never seen him hit above 90. Generally sits 87-89. FWIW, all 3 starts have been Barons home games, so it's possible they have a slow gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 08:17 PM) I've yet to hear this from anywhere. http://www.minorleagueball.com/2013/4/23/4...ameday-april-23 Pitchers lose velocity on their fastball all the time, so it's possible that's what's happened with him. It's also possible the Barons have a slow gun. I can only go off what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) What makes you think this? Almost everything I've read has Johnson sitting at 92-93, with the capability to run it up higher than that on occasion. I was actually about to post that exact same velocity range. And the scouting reports I've read say he can get it up to about 96 mph. So he may not have ace-like stuff, but with his control he has #2/#3 starter potential and a very high floor. On top of that, he's easily the surest prospect in the system, so he's totally an acceptable number one prospect, especially in a system like ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 1. Hawkins 2. Johnson 3. Anderson 4. Thompson 5. Sanchez 6. Beck 7. Snodgress 8. Johnson 9. Phegley 10. Michalczewski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 08:22 PM) Pitchers lose velocity on their fastball all the time, so it's possible that's what's happened with him. It's also possible the Barons have a slow gun. I can only go off what I've seen. That's interesting. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 05:04 PM) Welcome to Soxtalk. Interesting to see 5 of the 10 are guys drafted in the last two years. Thanks for the welcomes, appreciate it. I think they have drafted much better in the last two years than they did before, that's why I have so many guys from those drafts in my top 10. As for the Erik Johnson debate, I've also seen that he sits right around 92-93 but can get into the mid 90's at times. Even so, if he was topping out in the 80's, he must be doing something right to be getting the type of numbers he has. I think right now he is looking like a #2 upside type of guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 06:25 PM) I think a few people are too bullish on Michalczewski. He got third round type money, not first round. He's a nice get and a good prospect, but he shouldn't be near Barnum. The excitement may be a little premature, but I really liked how he looked in all the prospect videos I saw. He's got a smooth, compact swing that generates a lot of pop from both sides of the plate and his frame is perfect for third base. It may just be grasping at straws, but I think he could end up being the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think people are a little over-excited about Micah Johnson. He's definitely going to jump up the rankings, maybe even the back end of the Top 10. But Top 5? Not yet, anyway. On the Johnson debate, if the games were played at Tennesee (who the Barons play regularly), make sure to add 3-4 ticks to the gun. That's just one example I know of, but some of the guns at these parks are off. EJ is low 90's typically, can run to mid-90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 08:10 AM) I think people are a little over-excited about Micah Johnson. He's definitely going to jump up the rankings, maybe even the back end of the Top 10. But Top 5? Not yet, anyway. On the Johnson debate, if the games were played at Tennesee (who the Barons play regularly), make sure to add 3-4 ticks to the gun. That's just one example I know of, but some of the guns at these parks are off. EJ is low 90's typically, can run to mid-90's. This was a point I was going to make. You have to take minor league guns with a grain of salt because a lot of them are quite inaccurate. It's best to listen to scouting reports from guys behind the plate on velocity readings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 08:10 AM) I think people are a little over-excited about Micah Johnson. He's definitely going to jump up the rankings, maybe even the back end of the Top 10. But Top 5? Not yet, anyway. On the Johnson debate, if the games were played at Tennesee (who the Barons play regularly), make sure to add 3-4 ticks to the gun. That's just one example I know of, but some of the guns at these parks are off. EJ is low 90's typically, can run to mid-90's. He's got one great tool when looking at his numbers. His errors scare me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 09:04 AM) He's got one great tool when looking at his numbers. His errors scare me. Well hold on now, he's also hitting and getting on base at very good clips. Even shows a little power. He's not a one-tool guy. We'll see how the hit and power tools develop, but I wouldn't dismiss them yet either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I can't remember who said Webb was throwing nearly 100.... It was someone who watched a game and was told the Birmingham readings were 3-4 MPH too low on the radar gun. From everything we read, he's consistently 91-92-93. Touching mid 90's. I simply refuse to believe at that size he's in Dylan Axelrod territory in terms of velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 10:17 AM) I can't remember who said Webb was throwing nearly 100.... It was someone who watched a game and was told the Birmingham readings were 3-4 MPH too low on the radar gun. From everything we read, he's consistently 91-92-93. Touching mid 90's. I simply refuse to believe at that size he's in Dylan Axelrod territory in terms of velocity. I've seen reliable reports putting him upper 90's pretty consistently. Not sure where you've read low 90's consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I'm pretty excited about Micah Johnson, but he's not super duper young and he's still at a very low level. Likewise, he doesn't really have a defensive position. I'm happy to let him develop as a 2B, but one glance at that error number tells you that he's far from ready to field at a MLB level. Delayed gratification on him, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 09:30 AM) I've seen reliable reports putting him upper 90's pretty consistently. Not sure where you've read low 90's consistently. I was referring to Erik Johnson with the second part. Someone earlier in the thread questioning his velocity and putting him exclusively in the high 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 11:17 AM) I can't remember who said Webb was throwing nearly 100.... It was someone who watched a game and was told the Birmingham readings were 3-4 MPH too low on the radar gun. From everything we read, he's consistently 91-92-93. Touching mid 90's. I simply refuse to believe at that size he's in Dylan Axelrod territory in terms of velocity. Me. He hit 100. Guarantee it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 10:33 AM) I was referring to Erik Johnson with the second part. Someone earlier in the thread questioning his velocity and putting him exclusively in the high 80's. Ah, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 06:58 AM) Thanks for the welcomes, appreciate it. I think they have drafted much better in the last two years than they did before, that's why I have so many guys from those drafts in my top 10. As for the Erik Johnson debate, I've also seen that he sits right around 92-93 but can get into the mid 90's at times. Even so, if he was topping out in the 80's, he must be doing something right to be getting the type of numbers he has. I think right now he is looking like a #2 upside type of guy. We've all read the same scouting reports. On the Barons gun, in the 3 starts I've seen, I'm yet to see him above 90 MPH. Though it's possible I may have missed a fastball above that, each start I've seen (including yesterday) he sat in the high 80's. I'll try to watch the next time one his road starts is shown, to see if this is an issue with the Barons gun, or if we should be concerned about his velo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 10:37 AM) Me. He hit 100. Guarantee it. Had no idea he could do that. Now I understand the bro fest over his outings and the high rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 12:08 PM) Had no idea he could do that. Now I understand the bro fest over his outings and the high rankings. (Just to be clear, that post was about Webb). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I saw in the Tribune today that both Tim Anderson and Keon Barnum will be heading to Kannapolis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 08:10 AM) I think people are a little over-excited about Micah Johnson. He's definitely going to jump up the rankings, maybe even the back end of the Top 10. But Top 5? Not yet, anyway. On the Johnson debate, if the games were played at Tennesee (who the Barons play regularly), make sure to add 3-4 ticks to the gun. That's just one example I know of, but some of the guns at these parks are off. EJ is low 90's typically, can run to mid-90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 01:45 PM) I saw in the Tribune today that both Tim Anderson and Keon Barnum will be heading to Kannapolis. Why are they sending Barnum just now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 02:59 PM) Why are they sending Barnum just now? He's been hurt, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 02:45 PM) I saw in the Tribune today that both Tim Anderson and Keon Barnum will be heading to Kannapolis. Anderson was listed on Bristol's roster last time I checked, guess that changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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