Jake Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yeah, Bynum is going to go. Having Bynum on the team would be the ultimate way to run Thibs out of town, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'm so glad they traded Deng. Unfortunately, that first round pick might not get to us this year. Sacramento is pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Wow, love getting the King's pick in that. There's a good chance that's unprotected in 2 years, the Kings are a mess. Obviously JR is happy saving the massive amounts of money too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 So four picks for Deng? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 So...can we all take back the ridicule towards the FO for not making a deal? There was a lot of premature criticism up in here and the Bulls did a great job of not revealing their plan and not making a deal without getting what they were looking for, which is talent over savings. In the end, we got both. Great. All that for a freaking expiring contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 In exchange for Deng, the Cavs send Chicago Bynum, Cleveland’s right to the Sacramento King’s first round draft pick conveyed in a June 30, 2011 deal, the right for Chicago to swap its own 2015 first round draft pick with the Cavs own 2015 first round draft pick (only in the case that the Cleveland 2015 first round draft pick is between 15 and 30) and the Portland Trail Blazer’s 2015 and 2016 second round draft picks acquired from the Trail Blazers via 2013 draft night trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Outstanding trade. Apparently the Bulls were doing some postering to try and nab more. Can't say it didn't work. Glad they changed their chance, although not being serious with an offer might of made this not surprising. Edited January 7, 2014 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 12:22 AM) So...can we all take back the ridicule towards the FO for not making a deal? There was a lot of premature criticism up in here and the Bulls did a great job of not revealing their plan and not making a deal without getting what they were looking for, which is talent over savings. In the end, we got both. Great. All that for a freaking expiring contract. People tend to freak out. Like you did, I like to play the wait and see game but the Bulls front office has definitely earned their rep of sitting on their hands. This is a great deal. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Bulls twitter: Bulls convey contract of Luol Deng to Cavs for multiple draft picks & contract of Andrew Bynum http://bit.ly/1fa6OW9 pic.twitter.com/xe9vIdbllG I'd say we're going to release him since the Bulls aren't even willing to admit that we not only received his contract, but the player himself as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Why not just amnesty boozer now if they clearly are tanking this season now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Okay, so apparently that first report wasn't totally accurate... 1) The Bulls are actually getting THREE picks. Two of them are second rounders owed to Cleveland from Portland. 2) They can also swap first rounders with Cleveland in 2015 if the Cavs' pick is outside the lottery. 3) Most importantly, the Kings' pick is significantly less sexy than I originally thought. From RealGM: Sacramento's 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-12 in 2014, 1-10 in 2015, 1-10 in 2016 or 1-10 in 2017; if Sacramento has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Cleveland by 2017, then Sacramento will instead convey its 2017 2nd round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 56-60 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Sacramento's obligation to Cleveland will be extinguished) [Cleveland-Sacramento, 6/30/2011] So basically if the Kings aren't outside the top-10 in any of the next 3 years (outside the top-12 this year isn't happening), they get a second round pick and it's possible they get jack-s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Love it...but what the s*** is Cleveland thinking? Vaults them into the 8th seed for no reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 As we are learning with the Charlotte pick, even a terrible franchise tends to get a pick outside the top 10 over the course of several years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 12:27 AM) Love it...but what the s*** is Cleveland thinking? Vaults them into the 8th seed for no reason? You get sick of being a s***ty team after a while. It's not like the high draft picks have been doing them a ton of good, anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Deng also apparently turned down a 3 for 30 extension deal last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 good find Zoom. Also, I don't blame Deng one second for trying to find his way to the open market. This is the NBA. GMs are f***ing dumb. Someone will pay him a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 12:32 AM) Deng also apparently turned down a 3 for 30 extension deal last week. That's a pretty low ball offer IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 12:29 AM) As we are learning with the Charlotte pick, even a terrible franchise tends to get a pick outside the top 10 over the course of several years Charlotte has the 12th worst record in the league right now, not exactly a lock to finish outside of the top-10. The Kings are nearly as inept as a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Well, this will definitely help our chances of getting into the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 12:46 AM) Well, this will definitely help our chances of getting into the lottery. By far the most important aspect of this imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 12:52 AM) By far the most important aspect of this imo. You know, if they really want to get into the lottery, let Bynum play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 01:14 AM) You know, if they really want to get into the lottery, let Bynum play. Not a chance in hell. They will cut him by 4pm today. They have to in order to save the money and get out of the luxury tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 My guess is Deng ends up playing along-side Kobe from next season onwards, he's the perfect sort of defensive glue guy they'd need next to him, and Mitch Kupchak would recognise that. Think it was just a move that the Bulls had to make. If they end up with one of Wiggins, Randle or Parker as a replacement, you'd be pretty happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyone Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I think Deng stays right where he is at. LA has bigger prizes in mind (Love in 15, Durant in 16 I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 03:09 AM) My guess is Deng ends up playing along-side Kobe from next season onwards, he's the perfect sort of defensive glue guy they'd need next to him, and Mitch Kupchak would recognise that. Think it was just a move that the Bulls had to make. If they end up with one of Wiggins, Randle or Parker as a replacement, you'd be pretty happy with that. Whoa. Look who decided to join in... Good to see you posting. And yeah, best case scenario is to tank this season, get a lottery pick, and snag one of these studs. Plus, possibly get another 1st rounder (or two) if Charlotte and/or Sacramento somehow finish outside the Top 10. Edited January 7, 2014 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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