ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 8, 2013 -> 08:59 PM) For one season of Gardner? No thanks. That's fine. I'm not telling you I would offer that, I'm just telling you what I think the Yankees would want back. A lot of teams will be interested in Gardner. But I don't want to trade for any player on a 1-year deal, it makes no sense for this team (unless the deal comes w/ an extension). Edited December 9, 2013 by Chilihead90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 08:41 AM) I think it may be more of a misconception that it's very easy to get guys to sign extensions. I wouldn't trade for Gardner or Headley without a long term deal in place, and I can't think of a really good reason why either one would sign such a deal rather than test free agency. I agree. With the amount of money teams have been throwing around during free agency, why would you sign a cheap team-friendly extension unless you have been in that organization for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Gardner may cost a 3rd or 4th starter only... Would Danks for Gardner plus a prospect be worth it? If we could sign him long term? Per MLBtr: Andy McCullough of the Star-Ledger (Twitter link) hears from rival executives that the most likely return for the Yankees in a Gardner deal would be a No. 4 starter. A No. 3 would be a "great get," according to those execs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:05 PM) Gardner may cost a 3rd or 4th starter only... Would Danks for Gardner plus a prospect be worth it? If we could sign him long term? Per MLBtr: Andy McCullough of the Star-Ledger (Twitter link) hears from rival executives that the most likely return for the Yankees in a Gardner deal would be a No. 4 starter. A No. 3 would be a "great get," according to those execs Danks for Gardner straight up even is probably a reach for the Sox, let alone with more thrown in When they say '3rd or 4th starter'.......they mean lower total money than what Danks makes. Edited December 10, 2013 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:09 PM) Danks for Gardner straight up even is probably a reach for the Sox, let alone with more thrown in When they say '3rd or 4th starter'.......they mean lower total money than what Danks makes. Many 3rd and 4th starters on the open market have gotten multi-year deals at annual values north of $10M. If Danks is healthy, and throwing like he can, he is a bargain at that rate. If he pitches like he did last year...he's a bit overpaid. But the likely result of somewhere in between and Danks is paid just about right. But now is not the right time to trade Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:09 PM) Danks for Gardner straight up even is probably a reach for the Sox, let alone with more thrown in When they say '3rd or 4th starter'.......they mean lower total money than what Danks makes. They mean somebody like Santiago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Plus, Danks gave up 28 HR's last year. Imagine how many he would give up if he played in Yankee stadium half his starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 08:44 PM) Plus, Danks gave up 28 HR's last year. Imagine how many he would give up if he played in Yankee stadium half his starts. Its a haven for lefties and Danks is a lefty so that should limit his exposure there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) OTOH imagine what a steal it would be for the Yanks to get 3 years of good John Danks for the cost of 1 year of Brett Gardner. That potential alone should make the deal fair in this pitching market. I mean, obviously any deal is pending physical and IIRC Danks has a partial NTC anyway, so NY would get to look him over first. The guaranteed $$$ on Danks is the real risk, and I think in the right deal you dump that risk off on someone else and forget about the extra pieces. Gardner = 1st round pick (unless it's a multiple signing scenario where you get a 2nd or 3rd), so yeah, I'd do a deal to alleviate that risk of burden for a good valuable piece now, especially since it opens a spot in the rotation. However, should the Sox trade another lefty AND also believe it's 75-80% or better that Danks is an excellent pitcher again, I don't make that deal. Edited December 10, 2013 by The Ultimate Champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 10:44 PM) Plus, Danks gave up 28 HR's last year. Imagine how many he would give up if he played in Yankee stadium half his starts. That number is greatly exaggerated by his loss in velocity. I'd expect that number to be much better this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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