cabiness42 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Could we see 42 yard extra points? That's the exact opposite of what I think needs to happen. Instead of making the PAT harder, make it free. You score a touchdown, you just tell the referee that you are going to take the one-point PAT and it's yours. Or you can forfeit the free point and go for two. Also, since kickoffs are almost always touchbacks anyway, let's eliminate first half kickoffs and just put the ball on the 20. Keep the kickoffs in the 2nd half to allow for the possibility of onside kicks. As an added bonus, you would probably shorten games by 10 minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 09:12 AM) That's the exact opposite of what I think needs to happen. Instead of making the PAT harder, make it free. You score a touchdown, you just tell the referee that you are going to take the one-point PAT and it's yours. Or you can forfeit the free point and go for two. Also, since kickoffs are almost always touchbacks anyway, let's eliminate first half kickoffs and just put the ball on the 20. Keep the kickoffs in the 2nd half to allow for the possibility of onside kicks. As an added bonus, you would probably shorten games by 10 minutes or so. Those are awful ideas. Kickoffs are great and extra points need to be more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 USA TODAY Sports @USATODAYsports 4h Colin Kaepernick reportedly wants Jay Cutler money. Is he worth that to the 49ers? (@Qsports): http://usat.ly/OWpttq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) USA TODAY Sports @USATODAYsports 4h Colin Kaepernick reportedly wants Jay Cutler money. Is he worth that to the 49ers? (@Qsports): http://usat.ly/OWpttq The great NFL QB dilemma. Your QB is probably not worth a top contract, but it's not that easy to let him walk away and find another. So many teams are in that situation, including the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) The great NFL QB dilemma. Your QB is probably not worth a top contract, but it's not that easy to let him walk away and find another. So many teams are in that situation, including the Bears. As long as there are 5-10 less good QBs than NFL teams, QBs will always be "overpaid" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 10:43 AM) Those are awful ideas. Kickoffs are great and extra points need to be more difficult. I think they are great ideas, at least the extra points. Making extra points 42 yards just makes a kicker's role bigger, which is exactly the opposite of what I think everyone would want. It also would mean a lot of cheap shots into kickers because if your kicker got hurt during the game, you would be screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) I think they are great ideas, at least the extra points. Making extra points 42 yards just makes a kicker's role bigger, which is exactly the opposite of what I think everyone would want. It also would mean a lot of cheap shots into kickers because if your kicker got hurt during the game, you would be screwed. I don't know how that possibly correlates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) I don't know how that possibly correlates. If you have to make a 42 yard FG as an extra point, kickers are going to be targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) I don't know how that possibly correlates. I don't think it would happen, but in theory it makes sense. If you manage to injure the kicker after the first touchdown, every subsequent touchdown and field goal chance has a significantly reduced chance at being converted into additional points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) USA TODAY Sports @USATODAYsports 4h Colin Kaepernick reportedly wants Jay Cutler money. Is he worth that to the 49ers? (@Qsports): http://usat.ly/OWpttq What other choice do the 49ers have. If they let him go, there is no way to know if they can replace him. I don't know if he is worth that much money, but I think he is at least close to being worth that. He's better than Cutler, so I don't blame him for wanting that kind of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 12:17 PM) I don't think it would happen, but in theory it makes sense. If you manage to injure the kicker after the first touchdown, every subsequent touchdown and field goal chance has a significantly reduced chance at being converted into additional points. In this NFL where you get ejected for a playful pat on the ass, it is too big of risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Those are awful ideas. Kickoffs are great and extra points need to be more difficult. Kickoffs used to be great. Now, they almost all end in touchbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 12:11 PM) I think they are great ideas, at least the extra points. Making extra points 42 yards just makes a kicker's role bigger, which is exactly the opposite of what I think everyone would want. It also would mean a lot of cheap shots into kickers because if your kicker got hurt during the game, you would be screwed. If teams haven't targeted kickers already, 42 yard extra points wouldn't suddenly put kickers at risk. If your kicker is hurt, then you go for two from the 2-yard line, big deal. In fact, I think if this rule were enacted, some coaches might forgoe PATs and go for two most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 12:27 PM) If teams haven't targeted kickers already, 42 yard extra points wouldn't suddenly put kickers at risk. If your kicker is hurt, then you go for two from the 2-yard line, big deal. In fact, I think if this rule were enacted, some coaches might forgoe PATs and go for two most of the time. Maybe, but the thing is, teams have very few goal line or 2 yard line plays. Going for 2 becomes advantage defense pretty quickly. I am not in favor of any rule making kickers more significant. Just make it automatic unless you want to go for 2. Edited March 4, 2014 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 01:15 PM) If you have to make a 42 yard FG as an extra point, kickers are going to be targets. No they're not QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) Kickoffs used to be great. Now, they almost all end in touchbacks. I know, and that sucks. They never should have moved the kickoffs up. It was just a reactive move under the pretense of "safety" that they hoped people would actually buy. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 01:30 PM) Maybe, but the thing is, teams have very few goal line or 2 yard line plays. Going for 2 becomes advantage defense pretty quickly. I am not in favor of any rule making kickers more significant. Just make it automatic unless you want to go for 2. That's not true. And the 2-point conversion rate is around 50% so both sides are about equal here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Would we be weird to have to declare whether you will try for 2 or not How about you get 1 point from the 2, 2 points if you kick the 42 yarder? 2 point conversion from the 2 is still 2 points. Conversion from the 42 yard FG distance is 6 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Would we be weird to have to declare whether you will try for 2 or not How about you get 1 point from the 2, 2 points if you kick the 42 yarder? 2 point conversion from the 2 is still 2 points. Conversion from the 42 yard FG distance is 6 points. I can't recall a team ever going for two via a fake from a kicking formation, so in essence you are already declaring whether or not you are going for two via your formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 01:04 PM) I know, and that sucks. They never should have moved the kickoffs up. It was just a reactive move under the pretense of "safety" that they hoped people would actually buy. If safety was a pretense, what do you think the real motivation for that change was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 02:30 PM) If safety was a pretense, what do you think the real motivation for that change was? As something to use in future litigation as an example of "trying to make the game safer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 08:12 AM) That's the exact opposite of what I think needs to happen. Instead of making the PAT harder, make it free. You score a touchdown, you just tell the referee that you are going to take the one-point PAT and it's yours. Or you can forfeit the free point and go for two. Also, since kickoffs are almost always touchbacks anyway, let's eliminate first half kickoffs and just put the ball on the 20. Keep the kickoffs in the 2nd half to allow for the possibility of onside kicks. As an added bonus, you would probably shorten games by 10 minutes or so. Shorter games means less commercials which means less money, so they may not see that as a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Shorter games means less commercials which means less money, so they may not see that as a bonus. Shorter games does not necessarily mean less commercials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Bears won't attempt to resign Devin Hester http://www.csnchicago.com/bears/rapoport-b...gn-devin-hester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SexiAlexei Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 02:05 PM) Bears won't attempt to resign Devin Hester http://www.csnchicago.com/bears/rapoport-b...gn-devin-hester Thank God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyone Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 How quickly does he get signed by Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Sad to see he won't break record with bears. But it was too difficult to use a roster spot on someone who had no value outside return specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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