South Side Fireworks Man Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Tumbleweed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 04:04 PM) I think this is the much better solution. Viciedo, if what we've seen so far this year is real, is a much better option at DH than V-Mart. Melky Cabrera could be a really nice pick-up for LF. Switch hitter and since 2011 he is probably hitting about .315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Nice to score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Sox lose 5-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 05:01 PM) I wonder what crazy GM would be stupid enough to pay a 39 year old DH $15 million for a year. QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 05:05 PM) We will find out. Um, Ben Cherrington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 So who's starting next Tuesday at Wrigley? Hanson is supposed to start Friday, so probably not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 09:15 PM) So who's starting next Tuesday at Wrigley? Hanson is supposed to start Friday, so probably not him. Better not be Noesi! If so, the Sox management made some bad calculations in scheduling the starters the last two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 04:17 PM) Better not be Noesi! If so, the Sox management made some bad calculations in scheduling the starters the last two weeks. I don't think many calculations can over come an injury to your #1 and #2 starters, and extreme suckage another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 09:22 PM) I don't think many calculations can over come an injury to your #1 and #2 starters, and extreme suckage another. You simply can't afford to keep doing "bullpen games", as you're going to destroy your bullpen doing that. I absolutely don't believe Noesi was acquired with the thought of being a starter. Just seems to be inexcusable to not have something in mind for next week, as it's bad enough they got stuck with a game against the Tigers with one of the worst pitchers in baseball starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 04:27 PM) You simply can't afford to keep doing "bullpen games", as you're going to destroy your bullpen doing that. I absolutely don't believe Noesi was acquired with the thought of being a starter. Just seems to be inexcusable to not have something in mind for next week, as it's bad enough they got stuck with a game against the Tigers with one of the worst pitchers in baseball starting. The 40 man roster is full, and you are down three starters already. It isn't as easy as typing into your computer "you simply can't.", when the Sox don't really have a choice. Until they get Sale back and/or Paulino proves he can pitch, you are pretty screwed in the rotation. I'd be curious how many teams out there could start 10 starters in a month, and not run into a roster crunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I don't think the Sox are dumb enough to have another bullpen day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 08:57 PM) That .170 is better than whatever Gordon's hitting. It doesn't have to be Semien vs. Gordon for the 2 spot. You can easily just put Alexei there, ya know, since he's probably the team's second best hitter right now. What's your comparison line? Semien has a future but he isn't the answer right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) I am waiting for more players to be blamed for ths loss and of course Gordon is being dumped on as usual. But, I agree you can't throw a half dozen relief pitchers out there every 4th or 5th game to take the place of starting pitchers. Regardless of injuries something else needs to be done rather than do this again. He looked ok for three innings, which is long relief stuff Edited April 30, 2014 by elrockinMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 04:35 PM) I don't think the Sox are dumb enough to have another bullpen day. If something comes up, what choice to they have? It isn't about being dumb, it is about reality. Look here is what they were looking at for today. Quintana -pitched yesterday- out Rienzo- pitched two days ago- out Carroll - pitched three days ago - out Danks - pitched four days ago, could he have gone on short rest? probably not after throwing 123 pitches in last outing- out Sale- DL, not eligible - out Paulino- DL, no eligible - out Johnson- sent down Saturday, can't come up for 10 days after send down without a DL spot being used - out Leesman- sent down April 23, means he can't pitch in majors again until something like May 2 or 3 unless a DL spot is being used - out Axelrod- Not on 40 man roster, needs someone to be waived to activate. Also started April 28 - out Surkamp- started four days ago, could have been called up to start on short rest, but is sporting the nifty .404 BAA and 6.00 ERA in Charlotte, plus a sexy WHIP of over 2.00- Um, pass. Duente Heath- Not on 40 man roster, has made one start this whole year, going 5 IP. Tommy Hanson- Slot did fall in line with opening, but has only made two starts this year, going a total of 9 IP in those two starts. Also not on 40 man roster, meaning someone else needed to be moved to get him to Chicago. So now I ask, what is the not dumb move there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Didn't watch today's game. Sounds like one of last year's results though. Last night's game woulda been nice to steal. Sad to get owned by Detroit two straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) If something comes up, what choice to they have? It isn't about being dumb, it is about reality. Look here is what they were looking at for today. Quintana -pitched yesterday- out Rienzo- pitched two days ago- out Carroll - pitched three days ago - out Danks - pitched four days ago, could he have gone on short rest? probably not after throwing 123 pitches in last outing- out Sale- DL, not eligible - out Paulino- DL, no eligible - out Johnson- sent down Saturday, can't come up for 10 days after send down without a DL spot being used - out Leesman- sent down April 23, means he can't pitch in majors again until something like May 2 or 3 unless a DL spot is being used - out Axelrod- Not on 40 man roster, needs someone to be waived to activate. Also started April 28 - out Surkamp- started four days ago, could have been called up to start on short rest, but is sporting the nifty .404 BAA and 6.00 ERA in Charlotte, plus a sexy WHIP of over 2.00- Um, pass. Duente Heath- Not on 40 man roster, has made one start this whole year, going 5 IP. Tommy Hanson- Slot did fall in line with opening, but has only made two starts this year, going a total of 9 IP in those two starts. Also not on 40 man roster, meaning someone else needed to be moved to get him to Chicago. So now I ask, what is the not dumb move there? DL'ing Paulino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Clearing crap off your 40 man is a lot smarter than doing a bullpen day again, especially since there's no off day that follows. Even if that starter is as awful as Dylan Axelrod. edit: I see you're talking about today. I mean for next week. Today I don't mind it as much since there is an off day. I do hope no injuries result from it. Edited April 30, 2014 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 04:55 PM) Clearing crap off your 40 man is a lot smarter than doing a bullpen day again, especially since there's no off day that follows. Even if that starter is as awful as Dylan Axelrod. The max IP Axe has in any game this year is 6 IP, and he is averaging just over 5 IP. Putting him on a major league roster means there is a pretty good chance he makes it about the same 3.2 IP that Noesi made it. The guy isn't exactly tearing up Charlotte right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Got my days wrong. Hanson would be in line for next Tuesday if he starts tomorrow. I think if he puts up a quality start, he'll be up. Dump Nestor Molina off the 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 10:57 PM) The max IP Axe has in any game this year is 6 IP, and he is averaging just over 5 IP. Putting him on a major league roster means there is a pretty good chance he makes it about the same 3.2 IP that Noesi made it. The guy isn't exactly tearing up Charlotte right now. That'sfine but Iif we're nearly throwing the game anyway we can pitch Dylan until his arm falls off because who cares about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) That'sfine but Iif we're nearly throwing the game anyway we can pitch Dylan until his arm falls off because who cares about him. My feeling is that the Sox feel they fixed something in Noesi. Tipping pitches, adjustment in arm angle, standing taller, who knows what, but it seems they were anxious to get ahold of the guy. I also get the feeling they think he can be a starter, which is why they put him there today. I believe they will stretch him out, and he will start in this slot again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) That'sfine but Iif we're nearly throwing the game anyway we can pitch Dylan until his arm falls off because who cares about him. The other problem is who do you remove from the 25 man roster? Again remember, if you remove a pitcher with options, he has to be in the minors for at least 10 days before he can be recalled again, meaning you either have to call up yet another minor leaguer to be in the pen, or you lose a member of the bullpen for the 5 days until the starter you called up can pitch again. If they don't have options, then you are sending them through the waiver process, and might lose them. Which pitcher were you ready to send out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 12:14 AM) My feeling is that the Sox feel they fixed something in Noesi. Tipping pitches, adjustment in arm angle, standing taller, who knows what, but it seems they were anxious to get ahold of the guy. I also get the feeling they think he can be a starter, which is why they put him there today. I believe they will stretch him out, and he will start in this slot again. I think they may have fixed whatever the issue was. He looked good for three innings. I am not sure at this point in time he should be considered as a starter. If for no other reason then he isn't stretched out for more than 3 innings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 08:53 PM) I think they may have fixed whatever the issue was. He looked good for three innings. I am not sure at this point in time he should be considered as a starter. If for no other reason then he isn't stretched out for more than 3 innings If he can't be sent down without clearing waivers and he's not stretched out right now, the only way To stretch him out is to put him out for 3+ today and 4+ next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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