GreenSox Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) Neither. Started hot, cooled noticeably, now is roaring back again. Also worth noting, just before his current hot streak, he was benched a couple games due to an unspecified "mental lapse", per manager Joel Skinner. Probably nothing, but thought I'd add that. Presuming his D remains poor, any thought to switching positions to see if they can get something out of his hit tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 03:16 PM) Even in a rebuild Flowers showed who and what he was last year. I was shocked when he wasn't non-tendered. Last year he had the shoulder excuse. This year has shown that it maybe wasn't impacting his production that much, but it was probably a thing in the back of Hahn's mind - "You're rebuilding, if the right guy isn't there for the right price, give Flowers one last audition." I was bummed when Saltalamacchia signed with Miami. Even as a regression candidate, they stole him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 03:45 PM) Presuming his D remains poor, any thought to switching positions to see if they can get something out of his hit tool? Not sure where. 1B is already very taken. DH is just best-other-hitter, and he's not likely got THAT good a hit tool (he is drawing more walks but still isn't terribly selective). I doubt he has the athleticism for anything else, and has been a catcher his whole career. Basically... I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 To answer this question, as soon as the white sox claim AJ off of waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 06:20 PM) To answer this question, as soon as the white sox claim AJ off of waivers. If only Ventura were big enough to approve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 To answer this question, as soon as the white sox claim AJ off of waivers. To be a bit technical here, claiming him off waivers means assuming his contract. There is zero chance that happens. Once he clears waivers, the Sox can pick him up, and Boston is on the hook for his entire salary minus the prorated veteran minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 06:27 PM) To be a bit technical here, claiming him off waivers means assuming his contract. There is zero chance that happens. Once he clears waivers, the Sox can pick him up, and Boston is on the hook for his entire salary minus the prorated veteran minimum. It's not my money, so I don't give a s*** what they pay him. I'd go to a game JUST BECAUSE he's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napa_soxfan Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 A.....J...... Forgive me, but I am unequivocally in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubadentist Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 A.....J...... T-Flo makes me long for Karkovice , even at his current age..... bring back AJP,...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 The BoSox players supposedly hated AJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Of course, so did the Giants and he was obviously a key part of a World Championship the following season. That said, totally different situations now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Tyler is actually hitting worse this year than last (58 wRC+ versus 59). Given the luckiness of the April he had, that is actually quite incredible. He's right about to have a triple slash all in the 2s too - .217/.274/.301. He's also officially at 0.0 fWAR. Can't remember who it was that I bet that De Aza would hit at least 50 points better than Flowers from April 21st until the end of the season but since then De Aza is .256 (53 for 207) and Flowers is .169 (33 for 195). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) Tyler is actually hitting worse this year than last (58 wRC+ versus 59). Given the luckiness of the April he had, that is actually quite incredible. He's right about to have a triple slash all in the 2s too - .217/.274/.301. He's also officially at 0.0 fWAR. Can't remember who it was that I bet that De Aza would hit at least 50 points better than Flowers from April 21st until the end of the season but since then De Aza is .256 (53 for 207) and Flowers is .169 (33 for 195). I've posted this before, his BABIP is still .348! Can you f***ing imagine how awful he'd if he had his career BABIP line of 290 coming into this year? Flowers is literally one of the worst hitters I have ever seen as a regular. I would have more confidence with 40 year old Omar Visquel coming through than Flowers right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 07:38 PM) I've posted this before, his BABIP is still .348! Can you f***ing imagine how awful he'd if he had his career BABIP line of 290 coming into this year? Flowers is literally one of the worst hitters I have ever seen as a regular. I would have more confidence with 40 year old Omar Visquel coming through than Flowers right now. T-Flo has put 144 balls into play this year, resulting in 49 hits. Applying a .290 BABIP to those balls put in play leaves him with 41.76 hits. Add his 5 homers, divide by his 249 at-bats, and a .290 BABIP would have left him with an average of .188. Even assuming all 7 hits taken off him would have been singles, that still leaves Ordinary Luck Tyler Flowers with a triple slash of .188/.248/.273. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I think Nieto has earned the chance to get some more playing time.. He has better AB's then Flowers almost every time. Of course there will be some downs but it will be more interesting and I think he will do better and get better as time goes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 11:18 AM) He's lost his discipline. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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