RockRaines Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 03:07 PM) Is Iowa in if they lose to PSU? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Im convinced Woodbury just doesnt know the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 03:13 PM) Im convinced Woodbury just doesnt know the rules. He probably is as heralded of a recruit Iowa has had in 20 years, but he's built like a dinosaur. Tall with short arms and no leaping ability. He has as many fouls as points and rebounds combined today. You would think a legit 7'1" with any athletic ability should be able to put up big numbers in the NCAA. Edited March 12, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) The Weber thing is always strange from an outside perspective. When he was at Illinois I always thought they played Wisconsin pretty well. He's a fine coach when he has guys that can fit his system. He didn't do well recruiting to his system at Illinois and doesn't seem to be doing well at K State either in that regard. Â The team was about to become devoid of talent. To put it in perspective to an outsider these are the schools where some of his last recruits are playing: DePaul, Bradley, NIU, SIU, San Jose State, and Kentucky Wesleyan. The only three guys that were weber recruits on the team last year were Bertrand, Abrams, and Egwu. You can include Hill if you'd like. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (Boogua @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 03:24 PM) He's a fine coach when he has guys that can fit his system. He didn't do well recruiting to his system at Illinois and doesn't seem to be doing well at K State either in that regard. The team was about to become devoid of talent. To put it in perspective to an outsider these are the schools where some of his last recruits are playing: DePaul, Bradley, NIU, SIU, San Jose State, and Kentucky Wesleyan. The only three guys that were weber recruits on the team last year were Bertrand, Abrams, and Egwu. You can include Hill if you'd like. That's it.  At the end of the day, everything is on Groce. He is the one who took on the failed transfers of Paul, Cosby, and Starks. He's the one who hasn't found any better recruits than Tate, Colbert, and Morgan. He's the one who let his team basically quit on him in several opportunities to get to the tournament. If we're talking trajectory, we've just missed the NCAA tournament for two consecutive years for the first time in 25 years. We still don't have a legit PG or C. We still haven't landed that big time recruit. The trajectory is every bit downward. I guess you could argue the recruiting has been better, rankings-wise, than Weber's last classes, but we're still doing the whole "let's recruit 10 wings and see how it works out for us" thing.  He deserves another year, but he has a lot to prove.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Like I said its just strange. Â Illinois under Weber was getting a good amount of recruits Bo Ryan wanted. Egwu and Bertrand both turned down Wisconsin offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 03:35 PM) Like I said its just strange. Illinois under Weber was getting a good amount of recruits Bo Ryan wanted. Egwu and Bertrand both turned down Wisconsin offers.  I'd say Kaminsky worked out pretty well for you guys, though.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (gatnom @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 03:39 PM) I'd say Kaminsky worked out pretty well for you guys, though. Nobody wants those Benet b****es anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 03:44 PM) Nobody wants those Benet b****es anyway. Â Time to throw down, Rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (gatnom @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 03:33 PM) At the end of the day, everything is on Groce. He is the one who took on the failed transfers of Paul, Cosby, and Starks. He's the one who hasn't found any better recruits than Tate, Colbert, and Morgan. He's the one who let his team basically quit on him in several opportunities to get to the tournament. If we're talking trajectory, we've just missed the NCAA tournament for two consecutive years for the first time in 25 years. We still don't have a legit PG or C. We still haven't landed that big time recruit. The trajectory is every bit downward. I guess you could argue the recruiting has been better, rankings-wise, than Weber's last classes, but we're still doing the whole "let's recruit 10 wings and see how it works out for us" thing. He deserves another year, but he has a lot to prove. So it's all on Groce that the only upperclassmen on the roster that was highly recruited was Egwu? Groce had to take risks on transfers because of what he inherited. I'm not absolving him of the blame, but to say the trajectory is the same just seems to be a bit of an overreaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (Boogua @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 04:34 PM) So it's all on Groce that the only upperclassmen on the roster that was highly recruited was Egwu? Groce had to take risks on transfers because of what he inherited. I'm not absolving him of the blame, but to say the trajectory is the same just seems to be a bit of an overreaction. Â Well, the difference with them being transfers is that they're not freshmen that we have been developing. Starks and Cosby took two years of scholarships and gave negative value. It would be nice if we had something to pair with Black and Finke as opposed to whatever benefit having those two was. Still not sure what Paul will bring to the table. Â My point mostly is that we're still a middling to bad team which still can't recruit a team that fits together (now on year 4 recruiting a PG/C). How much different from Weber is that really? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) He probably is as heralded of a recruit Iowa has had in 20 years, but he's built like a dinosaur. Tall with short arms and no leaping ability. He has as many fouls as points and rebounds combined today. You would think a legit 7'1" with any athletic ability should be able to put up big numbers in the NCAA. Â Â Ummm....Kenyon Murray was a McDonald's All-American. Â Brunner, Horner and Adam Haluska (transfer from Iowa State). Â Jess Settles. Â Andre Woolridge, albeit a transfer from NE. Â Tyler Smith was definitely more highly-recruited....went to TN with Pearl. Â RICKY DAVIS, big-time NBA career, dunk artist and pure scorer, came out of DAVENPORT North. Â Chris Kingsbury, McDonald's All-American out of OH. Â Chris Street. Â Dean Oliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Now, instead of making a potential Big Ten Tournament run into the weekend, the Hawkeyes get a full week off, at least.  Sure, they'll hear their name called in a few days on Selection Sunday, but this one qualifies as a bad loss (to a team that went 4-14 in the Big Ten) and could hurt their seeding – maybe knocking them down to the No. 8 or 9 range, as opposed to the No. 6 or 7 that was pegged in front of Iowa's name before Thursday.  It was just last year that Iowa was KO'd by an inferior Northwestern team on the first day of the Big Ten Tournament and relegated to a First Four NCAA Tournament game in Dayton, Ohio. Iowa is now 2-9 in this event the last nine years, including 2-5 under McCaffery.   www.hawkcentral.com Edited March 12, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 05:05 PM) Ummm....Kenyon Murray was a McDonald's All-American. Brunner, Horner and Adam Haluska (transfer from Iowa State).  Jess Settles.  Andre Woolridge, albeit a transfer from NE.  Tyler Smith was definitely more highly-recruited....went to TN with Pearl.  RICKY DAVIS, big-time NBA career, dunk artist and pure scorer, came out of DAVENPORT North.  Chris Kingsbury, McDonald's All-American out of OH.  Chris Street.  Dean Oliver.  Murray and Kingsbury were 20 years before or so. The others were not the national recruits Woodbury was.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 04:22 PM) Murray and Kingsbury were 20 years before or so. The others were not the national recruits Woodbury was. Â Â Woodbury was 19th on the ESPN list. Â What was Ricky Davis? Â Tyler Smith was ranked as one of the top 50 seniors in the nation a year ago and is regarded the number two post-graduate player in the nation by Scout.com. He was selected as one of the top 10 high school players in the nation when Street & Smith's named him a second team selection on the 2004 Boys High School all-America team. He is rated a four-star prospect by Rivals.com. Â hawkeyesports.com Edited March 12, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kudos on the unis Indiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 05:29 PM) Woodbury was 19th on the ESPN list. What was Ricky Davis?  Tyler Smith was ranked as one of the top 50 seniors in the nation a year ago and is regarded the number two post-graduate player in the nation by Scout.com. He was selected as one of the top 10 high school players in the nation when Street & Smith's named him a second team selection on the 2004 Boys High School all-America team. He is rated a four-star prospect by Rivals.com.  hawkeyesports.com Ricky Davis I believe committed as a freshman or sophomore in HS. Woodbury was a large recruit Fran beat out Roy Williams. The guy IMO couldn't be more dissappointing. He is a decent defender, but I don't think he can dunk without a running start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 That was horrific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 05:03 PM) Ricky Davis I believe committed as a freshman or sophomore in HS. Woodbury was a large recruit Fran beat out Roy Williams. The guy IMO couldn't be more dissappointing. He is a decent defender, but I don't think he can dunk without a running start. Â Â Well, he succeeds in making Les Jepsen, Ryan Bowen, Acie Earl and Jared Reiner look like superstars. Â Reiner was also highly recruited, maybe not quite to the extent as Woodbury. Â Â Don't forget Reggie Evans and Luke Recker, that has to count for something...albeit Evans was a JC transfer, he was one of the Top 5 in the JC ranks coming out. Edited March 12, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I hope Perea is ok. That looked bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 State of Iowa getting eviscerated today. Â Of course, TEX has all the motivation, their tourney lives are riding on this game. Win and they're in, lose and they're out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Any info on Perea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 9, 2015 -> 11:15 AM) Day 1 Nebraska over Penn state Minnesota over Rutgers  Day 2 Illinois over Michigan Iowa over Nebraska Northwestern over Indiana Minnesota over Ohio State  Day 3 Wisconsin over Illinois Iowa over Purdue Maryland over Northwestern Minnesota over MSU  Day 4 Wisconsin over Iowa Maryland over Minnesota  Day 5 Wisconsin over Maryland   upset filled tourney ends in chalk.  Dude.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Matta all time winningest coach at OSU. Â Love him thanking people for sticking with him through his disability. Few people know how bad it is. Edited March 13, 2015 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 12, 2015 -> 07:01 PM) I hope Perea is ok. That looked bad Yeah from one angle it looked real bad. Wouldn't be surprised if his knee is wrecked. Â That's not good, but it's not the end of the world. They played pretty well when Perea was out earlier. Beat Maryland with Hartman starting. Â Still firmly planted on the bubble. Win tomorrow and we're in. Lose and am not sure but leaning out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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