cabiness42 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Releasing the name and injury of a patient to the public seems like it would be a violation. But i'll take it. Yeah, but the Expos were in Canada so nobody gives a f***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) I hold out hope that Danks can be moved by pitching respectably over the next several starts, in combination with injury related needs that arise: Wainright, BMac, etc. And Erik Johnson's resurgence is making me more confident that this is something they should do as soon as such opportunity arises. He's having another strong day in Charlotte. Tiny sample sizes, yes, but the scouting reports seem to back up a return of his stuff. It was only 13 months ago that we all pretty much had the guy penciled in as a MOR. They're not going to save all of the ~$26M JD is owed from today, by any means, but things just might be coming together nicely. Edited April 29, 2015 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 29, 2015 -> 08:23 AM) If it hurts when you move your foot into dorsiflexion and plantarflexion without weight on it, it is not a stress fracture. It is a "shin splint" which mean something along the shin hurts. If it's the inside of the tibia, it's most likely the posterior tibialis tendon, in front of the tibia anterior tibialis. Go to a sporting goods store and get soft stability orthotics for your shoes. Never passively stretch prior to athletic activity. It just increases your chance for injury. It's the right lower outside....so definitely not the posterior tibialis, I looked up all the diagrams and that stretches from the outside across the bone to the front/inside (right?) Is it normal to have shin splints in just one leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 29, 2015 -> 12:45 PM) It's the right lower outside....so definitely not the posterior tibialis, I looked up all the diagrams and that stretches from the outside across the bone to the front/inside (right?) Is it normal to have shin splints in just one leg? Have you considered having a doctor look at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Have you considered having a doctor look at it? Or at least somebody who stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 29, 2015 -> 12:45 PM) It's the right lower outside....so definitely not the posterior tibialis, I looked up all the diagrams and that stretches from the outside across the bone to the front/inside (right?) Is it normal to have shin splints in just one leg? Yes, it's common. It's most likely the anterior tib then. Get the soft orthotics for your shos and it will remove much of the stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 29, 2015 -> 11:46 AM) Have you considered having a doctor look at it? I did (almost two weeks ago)....x-rays showed no stress fracture, but you really need a bone scan or MRI to be 100% sure. That said, with the pain lessening by the day, and Ptac's explanation, I feel 99% confident no return to the hospital is necessary in this particular case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 29, 2015 -> 12:54 PM) I did (almost two weeks ago)....x-rays showed no stress fracture, but you really need a bone scan or MRI to be 100% sure. That said, with the pain lessening by the day, and Ptac's explanation, I feel 99% confident no return to the hospital is necessary in this particular case. An X-ray will show a stress reaction (the new and appropriate term is tress reaction as it's not really a fracture more like a crack) at about 4-6 post injury when the callus starts to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'd trade him to the Cardinals for some scouts, execs or people from the instructional leagues. They seem to do a lot of things right in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 05:20 AM) I'd trade him to the Cardinals for some scouts, execs or people from the instructional leagues. They seem to do a lot of things right in baseball. i will trade him to stl for the #39 comp pick and a hitting coach for the minor league. btw, i am serious about the comp pick. do like LA is doing to acquire comp picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Danks has a higher k-rate than Samardjiza. That is pretty incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Mr. Harvey in NY seemed to survive TJ surgery no worse for wear. Fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2015 -> 08:20 AM) Mr. Harvey in NY seemed to survive TJ surgery no worse for wear. Fwiw. What is the relevance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2015 -> 04:28 PM) What is the relevance? this has been bugging me since i read it..... who is Mr Harvey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ May 3, 2015 -> 10:29 AM) this has been bugging me since i read it..... who is Mr Harvey? Matt Harvey. NY Mets pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ May 3, 2015 -> 03:37 PM) Matt Harvey. NY Mets pitcher. jeeze....my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) What is the relevance? The same relevance as Gavin Floyd is the new poster child for why TJ surgery is ineffective. Actually, your provided example is much less relevant, because Harvey has more in common with Hoffman, Fedde, Giolito, Matuella, etc., since those pitchers are all quite young and havent had their arms (initially) put back together with screws and bolts. Edited May 3, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2015 -> 10:59 AM) The same relevance as Gavin Floyd is the new poster child for why TJ surgery is ineffective. Actually, your provided example is much less relevant, because Harvey has more in common with Hoffman, Fedde, Giolito, Matuella, etc., since those pitchers are all quite young and havent had their arms (initially) put back together with screws and bolts. Woh this is for your Homer Bailey idea, where even the trainer said you were wrong. In an effort not to pay John Danks, you would rather pay Homer Bailey to rehab and then after 2 elbow surgeries and 3 partial seasons, be on the hook to him , a guy who has only posted a WAR above 2.7 once in his career, $63 million for 3 seasons. They probably won't even let you GM a fantasy league. It would be stealimg your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) Woh this is for your Homer Bailey idea, where even the trainer said you were wrong. In an effort not to pay John Danks, you would rather pay Homer Bailey to rehab and then after 2 elbow surgeries and 3 partial seasons, be on the hook to him , a guy who has only posted a WAR above 2.7 once in his career, $63 million for 3 seasons. They probably won't even let you GM a fantasy league. It would be stealimg your money. You're right, because the $28 million in savings I created for Hahn In 2015 and 2016 would just wasted on Melky, LaRoche and Bonifacio buyouts. Oh, and paying Ventura not to manage as well. Greg should be GM and you can be his pitching coach. That would create some cost savings. Edited May 3, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2015 -> 12:59 PM) You're right, because the $28 million in savings I created for Hahn In 2015 and 2016 would just wasted on Melky, LaRoche and Bonifacio buyouts. Oh, and paying Ventura not to manage as well. Greg should be GM and you can be his pitching coach. That would create some cost savings. There is no savings. Homer Bailey still gets paid. He is owed $86 million.LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 please please please please please trade for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Danks would be a minor league invite guy if he wasn't on such a big contract. There's no value in keeping him on the roster. He's a sunk cost. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ May 3, 2015 -> 09:55 PM) Danks would be a minor league invite guy if he wasn't on such a big contract. There's no value in keeping him on the roster. He's a sunk cost. Time to move on. how, with his contract and performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2015 -> 12:11 PM) There is no savings. Homer Bailey still gets paid. He is owed $86 million.LOL. Because if you actually took the time to read what I wrote/proposed, the White Sox wouldn't pay anything for Danks for the remainder of 2015 and 2016. Hence, $28 million "created" to spend to fix holes elsewhere...with the idea you're signing Homer Bailey as a free agent to join the club in May or June or 2016. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensa...incinnati-reds/ I also said the Reds were going to pay the buyout for 2020, $5 million. So the White Sox don't pay Danks $28 million for 2015-16. The White Sox have to pay Bailey $89.3 million for 2015-19. Actually, they would REALLY be paying Homer Bailey $61.3 million for 2016-17-18-19, four years, about $15.5 million per season (escalating). It's risky, but paying Danks $28 million for the next two seasons is even dumber. At least this way, you get an asset back, and 2015 is almost becoming irrelevant at this point anyway. So you have: Sale Quintana Rodon Bailey Noesi/Montas/Johnson/Danish/possible first round collegiate pitcher All under control at least through 2019. If the medicals all check out and team feels confident he'll perform more like Harvey than Gavin Floyd. If not, pass. Of course, unless you prefer to pay Jeff Samardzija $22.5 million for five years instead. And not clear Danks from the roster, but instead prefer him to be an obstacle for the team and front office going forward. Edited May 3, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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