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2015 White Sox Draft Picks - Updates

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 12:47 PM)
As picks come in, they will go here, as well as of course on the Draft Tracker on Future Sox.

 

Players still alive in postseason baseball will be highlighted in green

Players that have signed or have said they will sign will be in bold.

Players who are confirmed as NOT signing will be in red.

 

1 (8th): Carson Fulmer, RHP, 6-0, 195, Vanderbilt - Playing in College World Series

4 (112): Zack Erwin, LHP, 6-5, 195, Clemson $508,000 (SLOT)

5 (142): Jordan Stephens, RHP, 6-1, 185, Rice>>>$300,000 ($80,400 under slot)

6 (172): Corey Zangari, 1B, 6-4, 240, R-R, Carl Albert HS (OK)>>>over $500,000

7 (202): Blake Hickman, RHP, 6-4, 220, Iowa $200,000 ($13,400 under slot)

8 (232): Casey Schroeder, C, 6-1, 195, S-R, Coastal Carolina (SC) $150k, ($24.8k below slot)

9 (262): Ryan Hinchley, LHP, 6-3, 205, University of Illinois at Chicago (IL)

10 (292): Jackson Glines, CF, 6-0, 195, L-L, Michigan>>>$10,000 ($142,300 under slot)

11 (322): Danny Dopico, RHP, 6-2, 190, Florida International

12 (352): Seby Zavala, C, 6-0, 185, R-R, San Diego State

13 (382): Ryan Riga, LHP, 6-0, 210, Ohio State

14 (412): Tyler Sullivan, CF, 5-9, 175, L-L, Pacific

15 (442): Chris Comito, RHP, 6-5, 220, Norwalk HS (Iowa)>>>$170,000 ($70K OVER slot)

 

So far we have $260,900 built up in the under slot signings, with $70,000 for sure being ate up by Cotillos $70,000 over slot. Zangari's number still hasn't officially came in, but at $500,000, he would be $215,200 over slot. Sounds like it could be more. That will be mostly offset by the $190,600 we have left over.

 

We still have the Hinchley bonus to factor in. Slot there is $163,200, which means if the Sox gave him $10,000 as a senior sign, we'd gain another $150k-ish to look at the HS players, part of which will be eaten up by Zagari.

 

Again the big factor here is Fulmer. Say we have $100,000 left over out of the rest of our signings, if we can pick up $500,000 from Fulmer, we'd have a million dollars or so to give to one of the HS signings. If we tried to split it, we'd be over $500k for each.

 

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Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 1m1 minute ago

 

6th-rder Corey Zangari's bonus w/@WhiteSox = $510k (pick 172 value = $284,800). Okla HS, can hit 97 but very raw RHP, big power 1B @MLBDraft

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 12:47 PM)
As picks come in, they will go here, as well as of course on the Draft Tracker on Future Sox.

 

Players still alive in postseason baseball will be highlighted in green

Players that have signed or have said they will sign will be in bold.

Players who are confirmed as NOT signing will be in red.

 

1 (8th): Carson Fulmer, RHP, 6-0, 195, Vanderbilt - Playing in College World Series

4 (112): Zack Erwin, LHP, 6-5, 195, Clemson $508,000 (SLOT)

5 (142): Jordan Stephens, RHP, 6-1, 185, Rice>>>$300,000 ($80,400 under slot)

6 (172): Corey Zangari, 1B, 6-4, 240, R-R, Carl Albert HS (OK) $510,000 ($225,200 over slot)

7 (202): Blake Hickman, RHP, 6-4, 220, Iowa $200,000 ($13,400 under slot)

8 (232): Casey Schroeder, C, 6-1, 195, S-R, Coastal Carolina (SC) $150k, ($24.8k below slot)

9 (262): Ryan Hinchley, LHP, 6-3, 205, University of Illinois at Chicago (IL)

10 (292): Jackson Glines, CF, 6-0, 195, L-L, Michigan>>>$10,000 ($142,300 under slot)

11 (322): Danny Dopico, RHP, 6-2, 190, Florida International

12 (352): Seby Zavala, C, 6-0, 185, R-R, San Diego State

13 (382): Ryan Riga, LHP, 6-0, 210, Ohio State

14 (412): Tyler Sullivan, CF, 5-9, 175, L-L, Pacific

15 (442): Chris Comito, RHP, 6-5, 220, Norwalk HS (Iowa)>>>$170,000

 

So with all of the top 10 slot figures in except for Fulmer and Hinchley, the Sox sit at $33,300 over their draft allotment. Keep in mind that Hinchley will result in a very large savings. If he gets $10,000, the Sox pick up$152,200 in savings, meaning they would have about $120k underslot built up to use elsewhere before we know anything about Fulmer's deal.

 

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If Fulmer is watching this game vs Pirates, he might not want to sign at any price.

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QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 11:50 PM)
Will Zangari be a pitcher of hitter/1b for the Sox?

 

 

1B

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 05:59 PM)
So with all of the top 10 slot figures in except for Fulmer and Hinchley, the Sox sit at $33,300 over their draft allotment. Keep in mind that Hinchley will result in a very large savings. If he gets $10,000, the Sox pick up$152,200 in savings, meaning they would have about $120k underslot built up to use elsewhere before we know anything about Fulmer's deal.

 

Would love to be able to make a run at Hickman but that probably only happens if Fulmer is underslot.

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Little snippet from Kiley McDaniel chat:

 

 

Comment From Nick

You’ve been clear that Carson Fulmer is your favorite pitcher from this draft. How would he compare to the pitchers of the 2014 draft? A tier below Rodon but above Nola?

11:49

Kiley McDaniel: I think he’s very similar to Nola in value, they’ll be near each other on the big list if Nola is still eligible

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Thanks to all those updating the draft.

 

Has there been any speculation to the money Fulmer might be looking for?

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Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 15m15 minutes ago

 

To this point, five of top nine picks in @MLBDraft have signed. Only Jay has received full slot bonus ($3,889,500 in his case). @Twins

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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 09:31 PM)
Maybe I missed this but why would Glines sign for 10K, 150K below slot?

He's a senior. No leverage. Take the 10k or don't play.

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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 09:36 PM)
He's a senior. No leverage. Take the 10k or don't play.

Okay - didn't realize things were that hard-nosed.

Now was Glines really a 10th round talent; or did they just pick him so that they could get 150K in cap room, essentially punting their 10th pick?

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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 10:12 PM)
Okay - didn't realize things were that hard-nosed.

Now was Glines really a 10th round talent; or did they just pick him so that they could get 150K in cap room, essentially punting their 10th pick?

 

 

Glines is actually decent. They punted their 9th rd pick though. Hinchley is awful. They signed an overslot guy in the 14th though in Comito.

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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 10:12 PM)
Okay - didn't realize things were that hard-nosed.

Now was Glines really a 10th round talent; or did they just pick him so that they could get 150K in cap room, essentially punting their 10th pick?

That's what I thought, too.... creating the cap room and then treating it like an asset. Did they create it for Fulmer, or someone else?

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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 10:12 PM)
Okay - didn't realize things were that hard-nosed.

Now was Glines really a 10th round talent; or did they just pick him so that they could get 150K in cap room, essentially punting their 10th pick?

10th round talent doesn't really mean anything in the modern mlb draft. It should be used Like the Sox did, well under slot signing to save your draft pool $$$. Glines was a A+ pick in that regard. He is both a guy to watch and saved a boatload of cash. But yes there were a lot of names more talented then him, just that you wouldn't save the cash on them. Our 9th round pick as mentioned was a total punt.

 

11th-40th round pick you can pay 100k max. If you go under, that amount does not go to your added draft pool. If you go over 100k however, you get charged against your draft pool. So we signed 170k a hs pitcher on day 3. That means that extra 70k has to come from somewhere aka one of those under slot signings from the first couple days. Drafting Glines helped us sign him.

 

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 07:14 AM)
That's what I thought, too.... creating the cap room and then treating it like an asset. Did they create it for Fulmer, or someone else?

Hard to say. I don't think Fulmer will go over slot. Probably at slot. Most of the money is going to our 6th round pick Zangari who went well above slot.

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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 10:12 PM)
Okay - didn't realize things were that hard-nosed.

Now was Glines really a 10th round talent; or did they just pick him so that they could get 150K in cap room, essentially punting their 10th pick?

 

This is the new draft style around MLB. Rounds 8-10 are about picking up cap room to draft over cap later in the draft. Look around all of baseball.

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7th round pick Hickman needs TJ surgery,why draft a hurt player? Who scouts these guys? A wasted choice when you lost 2 picks already because of the FA signings....

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QUOTE (lilnicky @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 11:26 AM)
7th round pick Hickman needs TJ surgery,why draft a hurt player? Who scouts these guys? A wasted choice when you lost 2 picks already because of the FA signings....

 

3rd round talent that has extreme familiarity with the org. I'm sure they knew.

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As noted on the Tracker, Sox have signed all but Fulmer through round 34. 35-37 open questions. 38-40 aren't going to sign.

 

Moving this thread to the FS forum.

 

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 11:28 AM)
3rd round talent that has extreme familiarity with the org. I'm sure they knew.

 

They got somewhere around a million or two dollar draft pick for $200,000. Even if they have to wait a year on him, it is worth it.

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College World Series starts tonight...does anyone know if Fulmer is starting game 1?

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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 01:43 PM)
College World Series starts tonight...does anyone know if Fulmer is starting game 1?

Yes sir, Fulmer is tonight's starter for Vandy. 7PM start I believe.

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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 01:49 PM)
Yes sir, Fulmer is tonight's starter for Vandy. 7PM start I believe.

 

Nice! I'll be tuning in! It should be his last appearance in college before he joins the Sox.

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