Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) How about hitting .374 in the minors ? He does a great job of putting the ball in play to the right side, that keeps his average from dropping that low. However, because he's constantly flipping the ball the other way, he's never driving the ball so it becomes a very, very punchless batting average. He was able to do that against minor league pitching because they don't get the scouting reports saying "don't put the ball right here to this guy" and because the control in the minors is lower. In the big leagues, people are just avoiding giving him the ball he can bloop to RF and it's killing him right now. He's absolutely talented, but that only gets you so far. There's no problem with playing as many talented guys as possible even if they've struggled early in their career...as long as you're not dumb enough to count on them as key parts of teams you expect to contribute on a team that must win this year to justify big trades or FA expenditures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) This 670 the Score feed... ...radio gold. No but seriously, this is awfully uncomfortable. The TV interview wasn't any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) Hitting .374 in the minors is a skill in the majors in what way? Hitting for average is a skill. Don't pretend that teams don't look at minor league production as a gauge for what skills a guy has. You hit .374 in the majors, there's a good chance you can hit for average in the majors. Not always, but don't act like Avi was just some stupid call up. There were seriously good signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:24 PM) He does a great job of putting the ball in play to the right side, that keeps his average from dropping that low. However, because he's constantly flipping the ball the other way, he's never driving the ball so it becomes a very, very punchless batting average. He was able to do that against minor league pitching because they don't get the scouting reports saying "don't put the ball right here to this guy" and because the control in the minors is lower. In the big leagues, people are just avoiding giving him the ball he can bloop to RF and it's killing him right now. He's absolutely talented, but that only gets you so far. There's no problem with playing as many talented guys as possible even if they've struggled early in their career...as long as you're not dumb enough to count on them as key parts of teams you expect to contribute on a team that must win this year to justify big trades or FA expenditures. Avi would be an absolutely unbelievable slow pitch softball player (as would any MLBer, but really, he'd be unreal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 12:23 PM) Hitting .374 in the minors is a skill in the majors in what way? Oh please don't pretend that if there was a 22 year old hitting .374 in AAA with a .950 OPS that you wouldn't be salivating. If you can't admit those numbers could translate to being a good hitter in the majors then you're just arguing for arguments sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 5-3, deep CF HR by Longoria. Double Play right before that bomb was huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) Hitting .374 in the minors is a skill in the majors in what way? LOL. I guess whatever players do in the minors is pointless then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) Oh please don't pretend that if there was a 22 year old hitting .374 in AAA with a .950 OPS that you wouldn't be salivating. If you can't admit those numbers could translate to being a good hitter in the majors then you're just arguing for arguments sake. Problem is I've watched all his professional ABs since getting called up and that "skill set" hasn't really translated to much. He cant hit a major league fastball, he still takes awful angles in the OF, he is a trainwreck on the bases, he doesnt even have a .700 OPS this season....dude is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 People need to calm down on Avi. Really premature. Continue your hate on Flowers and others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Rodon has been disappointing IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Giving the lead back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Rodon walks Forsythe, Robin out. Pulls Rodon for Albers after 4.2 innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) Rodon has been disappointing IMO He's a rookie who was barely out of college this time last year. If he's been disappointing then the problem was your expectations. I still laugh at the person who told me that bringing up Rodon in April would be worth 10 extra wins for this club, but that's where people were in their thinking early this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Wait. Why is Rodon being lifted after 75 pitches and two walks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 03:34 PM) Wait. Why is Rodon being lifted after 75 pitches and two walks? Robin's managing like it's the playoffs today for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Asdrubal Cabrera doubles off the CF wall over Eaton's head, run scores from 1b (was running with 2 outs). 5-4 White Sox, tying runner at 2b. Now they intentionally walk Loney, I think the rookie is up next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 This team is complete garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Well, when you run into the buzzsaw that is the tampa bay offense, this is what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:31 PM) LOL. I guess whatever players do in the minors is pointless then? If some of it doesnt translate to the majors, i'd say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:34 PM) He's a rookie who was barely out of college this time last year. If he's been disappointing then the problem was your expectations. I still laugh at the person who told me that bringing up Rodon in April would be worth 10 extra wins for this club, but that's where people were in their thinking early this season. Seriously, no one should be worried about Rodon. Most pitchers aren't immediately awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) Problem is I've watched all his professional ABs since getting called up and that "skill set" hasn't really translated to much. He cant hit a major league fastball, he still takes awful angles in the OF, he is a trainwreck on the bases, he doesnt even have a .700 OPS this season....dude is not good. Nope it hasn't translated very well so far. But wouldn't you say that most young hitters do not set the world on fire right away ? Go look up some HOF hitters . Some are good right away some take time. Damn the Rays are a pesky bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 They're going to lose this game, aren't they? As far as Rodon, send him down to get straightened out. Bring up Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Jaso in to pinch hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 QUOTE (bjm676 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 03:37 PM) They're going to lose this game, aren't they? As far as Rodon, send him down to get straightened out. Bring up Johnson They need to get this out right here. If they're spotted 5 and then lose the lead I think that'll do it mentally for them today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Why is Abreu playing the field? He is still gimpy Edited August 5, 2015 by BigHurt3515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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