GGajewski18 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Remember, keep this thread strictly to plans of what Sox could/should do given the current moves already. Do not stray off topic. Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Avail Garcia, SS Tim Anderson, SP Frankie Montas, and 2B Micah Johnson to the Reds for Todd Frazier Trade RP Zach Putnam to the Diamondbacks for Competitive B Draft Pick Trade 1B Adam LaRoche + Cash to the Pirates for 1 lower level minor leaguer Lineup: LF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu RF Justin Upton 3B Todd Frazier 2B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro (L) (S) CF Trayce Thompson SS Tyler Saladino 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez (S), OF J.B Shuck (L), C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S), Rule 5 pick/FA/Mike Olt Rotation: SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks (L) Bullpen: RP Jacob Turner (long man) RP Jake Petricka RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Tommy Kahnle RP Zach Duke (L) RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Thoughts? Edited December 10, 2015 by SoxPride18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:58 AM) Remember, keep this thread strictly to plans of what Sox could/should do given the current moves already. Do not stray off topic. Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Avail Garcia, SS Tim Anderson, SP Frankie Montas, and 2B Micah Johnson to the Reds for Todd Frazier Trade RP Zach Putnam to the Diamondbacks for Competitive B Draft Pick Trade 1B Adam LaRoche + Cash to the Pirates for 1 lower level minor leaguer Lineup: LF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu RF Justin Upton 3B Todd Frazier 2B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro (L) (S) CF Trayce Thompson SS Tyler Saladino 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez (S), OF J.B Shuck (L), C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S), Rule 5 pick/FA/Mike Olt Rotation: SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks (L) Bullpen: RP Jacob Turner (long man) RP Jake Petricka RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Tommy Kahnle RP Zach Duke (L) RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Thoughts? This would make me very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Holy hell is that an overpay for two years of Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I've been reading that the Dodgers are trying to get a third team involved to work out a trade for Jose Fernandez. I'm wondering if something like this could work? Dodgers get: RHP Jose Fernandez RHP Frankie Montas OF Marcell Ozuna White Sox get: RF Yasiel Puig Marlins get: LHP Julio Urias OF Joc Peterson SS Tim Anderson C Austin Barnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The winter meetings were slow, and it seemed that way for the whole league. There are some big pieces out there that, once moved/signed, will start a domino effect. I think once Heyward signs, the other free agent OFers will follow quickly. I see the Sox signing either Upton or Cespedes...more likely Upton. I'd like to see another big bat acquired, but I don't see Frazier. The asking price is too high, and the Sox (hopefully) won't part with Anderson. Beyond the signing of an outfielder, I'm not sure much more happens. Next year's off season should be much more active with a bunch of money coming off the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (coco1997 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:48 AM) I've been reading that the Dodgers are trying to get a third team involved to work out a trade for Jose Fernandez. I'm wondering if something like this could work? Dodgers get: RHP Jose Fernandez RHP Frankie Montas OF Marcell Ozuna White Sox get: RF Yasiel Puig Marlins get: LHP Julio Urias OF Joc Peterson SS Tim Anderson C Austin Barnes You don't trade for Puig right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (coco1997 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:48 AM) I've been reading that the Dodgers are trying to get a third team involved to work out a trade for Jose Fernandez. I'm wondering if something like this could work? Dodgers get: RHP Jose Fernandez RHP Frankie Montas OF Marcell Ozuna White Sox get: RF Yasiel Puig Marlins get: LHP Julio Urias OF Joc Peterson SS Tim Anderson C Austin Barnes QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:50 AM) You don't trade for Puig right now. Especially Montas and Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I don't see the Sox signing Cespedes or Upton. Why not trade for Puig? Because of his off-the-field issues in LA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (coco1997 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:54 AM) I don't see the Sox signing Cespedes or Upton. Why not trade for Puig? Because of his off-the-field issues in LA? I think they're referring to his recent domestic violence incident, not just the standard "guy's a d***." I don't know the latest on it so I won't offer my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:58 AM) Remember, keep this thread strictly to plans of what Sox could/should do given the current moves already. Do not stray off topic. Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Avail Garcia, SS Tim Anderson, SP Frankie Montas, and 2B Micah Johnson to the Reds for Todd Frazier Trade RP Zach Putnam to the Diamondbacks for Competitive B Draft Pick Trade 1B Adam LaRoche + Cash to the Pirates for 1 lower level minor leaguer Lineup: LF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu RF Justin Upton 3B Todd Frazier 2B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro (L) (S) CF Trayce Thompson SS Tyler Saladino 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez (S), OF J.B Shuck (L), C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S), Rule 5 pick/FA/Mike Olt Rotation: SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks (L) Bullpen: RP Jacob Turner (long man) RP Jake Petricka RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Tommy Kahnle RP Zach Duke (L) RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Thoughts? Exactly the kind of thread I wanted to start today!! Justin Upton! I was thinking 5 years for $125 mil. A nice fit for the Cell. We need that power bat and then go onto the next priority. Get Upton!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I wouldn't mind the Sox signing Upton and swinging a trade for Prado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Yowzers. That' a ton for Frazier. He batted .234 in 2013 with 19 homers. Sorry, but I'm not giving up that much for 2 years of him. Also I really don't even want him All I want is: Move Melky to DH, Make Garcia a 4OF, and free up LaRoche off this team. With that we have flexibility. I'm not a huge believer in Trayce, but think he has a spot in CF where he can bat .240 with 15HR and good tools. Move Eaton to LF. And acquire a RF with offense and the capability to not look like Garcia out there. With this? I am happy. I also would like to sign a pitcher .. a lower end one. Petit would have been one I liked. Or Chris Young. Basically a dependable 5/6 guy. If we do perform and win this year I just don't want to rely on Erik Johnson and Danks all year. Plus injuries do happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:58 AM) Remember, keep this thread strictly to plans of what Sox could/should do given the current moves already. Do not stray off topic. Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Avail Garcia, SS Tim Anderson, SP Frankie Montas, and 2B Micah Johnson to the Reds for Todd Frazier Trade RP Zach Putnam to the Diamondbacks for Competitive B Draft Pick Trade 1B Adam LaRoche + Cash to the Pirates for 1 lower level minor leaguer Lineup: LF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu RF Justin Upton 3B Todd Frazier 2B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro (L) (S) CF Trayce Thompson SS Tyler Saladino 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez (S), OF J.B Shuck (L), C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S), Rule 5 pick/FA/Mike Olt Rotation: SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks (L) Bullpen: RP Jacob Turner (long man) RP Jake Petricka RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Tommy Kahnle RP Zach Duke (L) RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Thoughts? That's an overpay for Frazier. Reds will either budge off Anderson or Frazier won't be a White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Left handed OF power bat to hit behind Abreu in the batting order. Would love to try and steal Preston Tucker from Houston since they have so many outfielders but that likely a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Don't have any names, but I would love a 2 hole hitter(I like Melky further down) who gets on base at a decent clip, and a cleanup hitter who's preferably left handed just to balance the lineup a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I really don't think the Sox will be signing a player with a pick attached. Beat writers have beensaying they don't believe the Sox will. If they end up doing a trade for the likes of Frazier or carlos gonzalez or who ever else they will need those 3 picks in the top 50 to recoup what they traded away. Plus this is the first time the Sox had those type of picks in a while especially 2 in the top 30 in a long time. Chance for the sox to stock up on better and quality talent. So if they clear space for an outfielder I can see going for Cespedes. He's also carries energy which should help in the club house which the Sox need to go along with Lawrie and eaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) I think they're referring to his recent domestic violence incident, not just the standard "guy's a d***." I don't know the latest on it so I won't offer my opinion. At this point, the most recent incident is only about 2 weeks old. There's no way to know what MLB's investigative team will do or how they'll treat these - there's literally no precedent since it's a brand new rule. You could very readily trade for him and then lose him for a substantial amount of time to a suspension. Same reason the Dodgers Chapman deal is currently "on hold". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) At this point, the most recent incident is only about 2 weeks old. There's no way to know what MLB's investigative team will do or how they'll treat these - there's literally no precedent since it's a brand new rule. You could very readily trade for him and then lose him for a substantial amount of time to a suspension. Same reason the Dodgers Chapman deal is currently "on hold". @JonHeymanCBS Dodgers have moved on from chapman and are weighing Andrew miller among other pitchers and also hitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) @JonHeymanCBS Dodgers have moved on from chapman and are weighing Andrew miller among other pitchers and also hitters What about our own David Robertson. I liked the signing of Robertson last year and would not mind keeping him. But, I wonder what his worth is? If Hahn could trade him for another position player who could help why not deal him. Why not look at our own organization and try to develop a young arm into a closer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) What about our own David Robertson. I liked the signing of Robertson last year and would not mind keeping him. But, I wonder what his worth is? If Hahn could trade him for another position player who could help why not deal him. Why not look at our own organization and try to develop a young arm into a closer? Who would the closer be for the Sox if he was moved? I feel like if the Sox want to compete, they need an elite closer. We all remember the 'closer by committee' disaster in 2014. I don't want a repeat of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Gonna say trade for CarGo and sign Howie Kendrick. Then pen and rotation depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) What about our own David Robertson. I liked the signing of Robertson last year and would not mind keeping him. But, I wonder what his worth is? If Hahn could trade him for another position player who could help why not deal him. Why not look at our own organization and try to develop a young arm into a closer? I'd listen on Robertson but I'm also ok with Robin having one expensive "security blanket" that he can blame when a game falls apart at the end. If someone gave a good offer ok...but a team looking to compete right now still has a better option in Melancon. FA after next year, Pirates will definitely move him for the right package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qmoe1020 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 10:50 AM) You don't trade for Puig right now. No Puig.......ever. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2597460...rce=twitter.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:33 AM) Who would the closer be for the Sox if he was moved? I feel like if the Sox want to compete, they need an elite closer. We all remember the 'closer by committee' disaster in 2014. I don't want a repeat of that. As I said in my post, what about developing a closer from our organization. With all of these young power arms is there a closer there? Robertson is one of our real chips for a trade and it might be worth to trade. Just throwing out ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:06 PM) As I said in my post, what about developing a closer from our organization. With all of these young power arms is there a closer there? Robertson is one of our real chips for a trade and it might be worth to trade. Just throwing out ideas. I guess so, but I feel like it's too early to put Montas or Fulmer into that role and Nate Jones isn't good enough. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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