Dunt Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 @ClubhouseConvo: I believe Alex Gordon will be a #Royal by mid week. #WhiteSox would seem to be only other serious contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 No other contenders for Gordon? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Cardinals, Giants (if price goes down more), Orioles, Angels, Tigers, Nationals would all seem to be decent fits as well as KC and the White Sox. Rangers, if they can dump salary on someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 06:42 AM) No other contenders for Gordon? Why? Â I'm guessing because of his age. If he could be had on a 4 year deal, I wouldn't be mad if we got him. I think he ends up going to St. Louis with Holliday playing first/seeing a little time in the outfield/DHing in AL parks. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I feel like Gordon is going to sign a very team friendly deal for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 09:24 AM) I feel like Gordon is going to sign a very team friendly deal for some reason. Â That reason would be that he doesn't have much of a market. The big market teams aren't looking for an OF. His "hometown" team is lowballing him at $12AAV. The Sox should really swoop in and offer him 4 year/ $80M. That's nearly $30M over the Royals current offer. He makes this team so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Anyone have concerns about Gordon coming off an injury at his age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Wouldn't signing him require giving up a draft pick? Sox have already claimed supposedly that they aren't going after anybody that requires giving up a pick.  We'll see.  Mark   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 10:01 AM) That reason would be that he doesn't have much of a market. The big market teams aren't looking for an OF. His "hometown" team is lowballing him at $12AAV. The Sox should really swoop in and offer him 4 year/ $80M. That's nearly $30M over the Royals current offer. He makes this team so much better. Â That $12 million is what I'm talking about though. I think he'll sign a deal much lower than people expected. Considering Zobrist just got 16 mill at 35 he should at least be getting that deal and I wonder if he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) That $12 million is what I'm talking about though. I think he'll sign a deal much lower than people expected. Considering Zobrist just got 16 mill at 35 he should at least be getting that deal and I wonder if he will. Â I find it very hard to believe that he won't get (at minimum) a deal around $18-$20M AAV over 4 years. I also find it very hard to believe that he'd turn down 4/$80M and sign with the Royals at 4/$50M. No way he leaves $30M on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 05:06 PM) Wouldn't signing him require giving up a draft pick? Sox have already claimed supposedly that they aren't going after anybody that requires giving up a pick. We'll see.  Mark  Even Buster Olney said that's not a deal-breaker for the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 With news of Gordon's market picking up (or more the fact that his lack of suitors is driving him to make a decision sooner vs. later). Separate thread probably makes sense. Thanks Kyle for pulling this together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 09:11 AM) Although I just broke this rule too, this thread is for tweets, quotes and links. Keep the analysis to a minimum. Â No longer necessary since this is a separate thread now from the "tweets" thread for those of you who actually do as a mod suggests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 11:12 AM) I find it very hard to believe that he won't get (at minimum) a deal around $18-$20M AAV over 4 years. I also find it very hard to believe that he'd turn down 4/$80M and sign with the Royals at 4/$50M. No way he leaves $30M on the table. Â I do too, but I have this nagging feeling he's going to sign for 16 mill and everyone will be kicking themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 It'd be nice to see Gordon go to KC and then Upton or Cespedes can come to the Sox right afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 06:55 PM) It'd be nice to see Gordon go to KC and then Upton or Cespedes can come to the Sox right afterwards. Â Heck no, be nice to see Gordon go to Giants or Cardinals or Orioles....KC won't be a player for Upton/Cespedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 All I know is that I don't want Gordon anywhere close to a Sox uniform. Â Yeah, he's solid defensively, but he's also the oldest and worst hitter out of the elite outfielder group...not to mention that he has a QO attached too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 09:54 AM) I do too, but I have this nagging feeling he's going to sign for 16 mill and everyone will be kicking themselves. Â Sign Gordon, Melky DH's ,LaRoche occasional start ,PH, defensive replacement or gone one way or another. Yes please . It's not Cespedes or Upton but not a bad third choice at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I seen that Twitter update couple days ago but didn't think much of it. I'd be stunned if he left KC for CWS unless we offered way more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 11:58 AM) All I know is that I don't want Gordon anywhere close to a Sox uniform. Yeah, he's solid defensively, but he's also the oldest and worst hitter out of the elite outfielder group...not to mention that he has a QO attached too.  I am not a huge Gordon fan but isnt defense a HUGE need for the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I'm not sold on Gordon either. I don't like his age, his offense isn't great, he can't play RF, he's coming off an injury, and I don't think his defense will stay elite going forward, which is where the bulk of his value comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) I am not a huge Gordon fan but isnt defense a HUGE need for the Sox? Yes...but he's not worth giving a 4 or 5 year deal and a draft pick for IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 09:59 AM) I seen that Twitter update couple days ago but didn't think much of it. I'd be stunned if he left KC for CWS unless we offered way more money. Â I wouldn't be stunned. The best way to hurt the Royals for low balling him would be to sign in the same division so he can get back at them . I like a motivated player . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I really don't see how Gordon would be that motivated regardless of where he signs. He's already won a World Series title and got a huge contract...what else is that important to him at this point? Unless he's a true competitor, I think his best years are behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 10:01 AM) I'm not sold on Gordon either. I don't like his age, his offense isn't great, he can't play RF, he's coming off an injury, and I don't think his defense will stay elite going forward, which is where the bulk of his value comes from. Â Do the Sox really need "great "offense ? They need more talent. Yea his defense will start degrading or has already started but there's no doubting he has a lot of talent. Out of the big 3 Gordon has the highest Steamer projected WAR next year and it isn't because of the "bulk" of his value comes from defense. Give me a guy familiar with the AL and especially AL Central pitching all day. They are the easier to say that I won't have to wonder about their projection as I would with NL players making the transition to the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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