Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 04:54 PM) Sands is also out of options. Sometimes that carries a little merit when making decisions even though it shouldn't. I almost wonder if the Sox would carry both Shuck and Sands and drop Olt. Sands can play 1B if needed, and I am sure they will try to get Sanchez time at 3B to make him a super-sub. Might even allow for Melky and Avi to play some DH (although I have no clue Sands defensive ability). They can't keep Sanchez, C, Garcia, Sands, and Shuck. They keep 4 bench players and go with 12 pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 05:38 PM) They can't keep Sanchez, C, Garcia, Sands, and Shuck. They keep 4 bench players and go with 12 pitchers. I didn't say anything about 5 bench players. Sanchez, Shuck, Sands, and Navarro. Are you referring to Leury? I doubt he makes the team due to his inability to hit. Edit: Plus I want to say that I am not advocating carrying both Shuck and Sands, just nearly saying it could be an option. Edited February 3, 2016 by CWSpalehoseCWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 03:38 PM) They can't keep Sanchez, C, Garcia, Sands, and Shuck. They keep 4 bench players and go with 12 pitchers. Can we keep poop on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You guys know that we play non-AL Central teams, too, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 06:04 PM) You guys know that we play non-AL Central teams, too, right? We do? I thought we only played the central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) I agree. That's why I brought up the Ethier AND Austin Jackson. Realistically, Shuck will probably get a fair amount of ABs against LHP if Ethier is acquired. Ethier and Jackson is a pipe dream, but man it looks good on paper. Ethier and Desmond would be my preferred route. Avi platoon with Eitheir. Saladino platoon with LaRoche, moving Abreu, Lawrie, or Frazier (or Desmond) to DH on that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (hi8is @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) Can we keep poop on the bench? We can, but Poop Flambé plays his best position at the front door on a warm and humid summer's night. Edited February 4, 2016 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Jon morosi on mlb network said he doesn't see the Sox getting ethier. Said he was the Dodgers best hitter after all star break and they may want to see him going forward. Tho that seems to be his opinion. Also said sox are more heavily involved in the free agent market with fowler and Desmond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 10:10 PM) Jon morosi on mlb network said he doesn't see the Sox getting ethier. Said he was the Dodgers best hitter after all star break and they may want to see him going forward. Tho that seems to be his opinion. Also said sox are more heavily involved in the free agent market with fowler and Desmond. Am I crazy or did you post this in three different threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 12:10 AM) Am I crazy or did you post this in three different threads. Echo...echo.....echo Edited February 4, 2016 by SouthSideSale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) Ethier and Desmond would be my preferred route. Avi platoon with Eitheir. Saladino platoon with LaRoche, moving Abreu, Lawrie, or Frazier (or Desmond) to DH on that day. There is zero chance of that. The White Sox have no where near the resources to pull that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 08:10 AM) There is zero chance of that. The White Sox have no where near the resources to pull that off. LOL - yeah, that shoe string budget that poor, 'ol Uncle Jer operates under. How he manages to make ends meet continues to impress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 If the Dodgers are/were willing to eat $5-7 million, they could arguably add both for $25-27.5 million or the price of Cespedes for one season. That said, highly unlikely. Mainly because they are in the unusual position of counting on someone they couldn't dump even eating half his salary a year ago at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 3, 2016 -> 10:10 PM) Jon morosi on mlb network said he doesn't see the Sox getting ethier. Said he was the Dodgers best hitter after all star break and they may want to see him going forward. Tho that seems to be his opinion. Also said sox are more heavily involved in the free agent market with fowler and Desmond. Phil Rogers and Merkin have both said they don't want to give up any draft picks. Others have mentioned that they are involved on Desmond and Fowler. Hahn basically said they might forfeit the pick. The White Sox are trying to get Desmond or Fowler to sign for cheap in my opinion. Those guys don't have many suitors and they are waiting for a bigger deal than is available. Fowler has to crack eventually. The QO really sapped the value from these guys. They both should have accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 07:24 AM) Not even about that. They aren't going to punt 2 top 50 picks 2? Ethier isn't a free agent. It's only one draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 07:49 AM) 2? Ethier isn't a free agent. It's only one draft pick. My bad. I read it as Fowler and Desmond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 07:20 AM) LOL - yeah, that shoe string budget that poor, 'ol Uncle Jer operates under. How he manages to make ends meet continues to impress! You are welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy esposito Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 09:03 AM) You are welcome!of all the dodger outfielders maybe we could get Trayce Thompson back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The #Whitesox still would like offensive upgrade, and the #Dodgers would love to move Andre Ethier, but no signs of potential match. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/695260444064284674 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 07:26 AM) Phil Rogers and Merkin have both said they don't want to give up any draft picks. Others have mentioned that they are involved on Desmond and Fowler. Hahn basically said they might forfeit the pick. The White Sox are trying to get Desmond or Fowler to sign for cheap in my opinion. Those guys don't have many suitors and they are waiting for a bigger deal than is available. Fowler has to crack eventually. The QO really sapped the value from these guys. They both should have accepted. Yes, but we should hold our tongues before its official. Everyone we thought so far would sign for a discount did, but not near the level we anticipated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) Yes, but we should hold our tongues before its official. Everyone we thought so far would sign for a discount did, but not near the level we anticipated. Howie Kendrick fot 2 years a $20 million. That's a bargain. Fowler is looking at 3/30 at this point and I have no idea what Desmond's market is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) Yes, but we should hold our tongues before its official. Everyone we thought so far would sign for a discount did, but not near the level we anticipated. The discounts have come in years, not really AAV, except for Gordon and Kendrick. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2016-top-50...nt-predictions/ Cespedes, Gordon, and Kendrick signed for well below the predictions. There's no question that the QO hurt Kendrick considerably. At this point, I'd be very surprised to see Fowler and Desmond to get anywhere close to 4/56 and 5/85, at least in the years. AAV would probably only fall $1-2 million if it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I still think if fowler signs it will be closer to melky's deal. i don't think 3/30 will happen. If it does that is a tremendous deal, if it's less, its a steal. $10 million for an outfielder with a strength (obp) as good as his is pretty remarkable. But, I think 3/44-45 is what we end up seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 05:10 PM) I still think if fowler signs it will be closer to melky's deal. i don't think 3/30 will happen. If it does that is a tremendous deal, if it's less, its a steal. $10 million for an outfielder with a strength (obp) as good as his is pretty remarkable. But, I think 3/44-45 is what we end up seeing. Agreed...to me, Sox should offer a 3 year, 42 million contract with opt-out after 2 years. 2016 be somewhere around 10, second year at 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 10:10 AM) I still think if fowler signs it will be closer to melky's deal. i don't think 3/30 will happen. If it does that is a tremendous deal, if it's less, its a steal. $10 million for an outfielder with a strength (obp) as good as his is pretty remarkable. But, I think 3/44-45 is what we end up seeing. QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 10:22 AM) Agreed...to me, Sox should offer a 3 year, 42 million contract with opt-out after 2 years. 2016 be somewhere around 10, second year at 16. I'm thinking the same as you guys. Fowler is probably using Melky's contract as a starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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