fathom Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Crazy that Latos is only 28. Between him and Avila (29), it might be the oldest looking under 30 battery in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 FWIW, I know what has been reported about Latos, but I actually went to Coconut Creek High with him and was on the same team and this guy was f***ing awesome to be around. Helped everyone, definitely busted your balls while doing it, but he just wanted to win. And this was highschool. Definitely a party guy and a little bit of a bro but not an asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Didn't someone tweet out the Sox signed him like 5 weeks ago, only to delete it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 There is no such thing as low risk / high reward. Please stop it. You can say it is a low-risk signing, because it is. It's only 1/$3M. But the concept is high risk / high reward or low risk / low reward, because risk isn't about what happened in the end. It's about the chances of something happening in the future. If there is a high chance of a high reward, that person isn't signing for $3M. It is also about the LIKELY reward, since obviously ANY investment could go big or go bad. Same in baseball as any other investment. So this is low risk / low reward. And that's fine. Now go get a bloody right fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Good. Like others stated, I'm shocked he signed for this low. Finally some fruit to the waiting game. Hopeful still that other fruit will be borne in the shape of an outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Wow, nice. Could be a very important depth move. Kudos to the front office today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Mike Recchia @Recchia1 21m21 minutes ago @barstoolWSD guys an ass hole bro Mike Recchia @Recchia1 20m20 minutes ago @barstoolWSD hope they release him 1 day in This is what Mike Recchia said to White Sox Dave about the Latos signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) Why is low risk/high reward impossible? We're not talking about trading equities here. Latos is a guy who has consistently been a 3+ WAR pitcher when healthy (and only 28 years old) that can be released for a total of $3M if things go south. I'm not sure what else you would call this signing other than low risk/high reward. It's high risk. There's a good chance he'll be banged up or ineffective. If the chances of him being healthy/good were higher, he would have signed for more than $3M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) Using this as an excuse to trade Erik Johnson would be a mistake. Again I ask, how many innings can you realistically rely on Latos to pitch? This move was to bolster pitching depth. And people, please stop calling things low risk/high reward. Low risk/high reward is impossible. You make me cranky. For once, this is right. This is a three million dollar signing for a guy who when healthy can be a #2 starter, on a team that can use a RH SP at the top of their rotation. If the guy gives you problems, or sucks, you dump him. There really is not much risk when you consider he is only getting $2.5 million over minimum wage in MLB. Where else can you get a shot at a #2 starter for $3 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:24 PM) There is no such thing as low risk / high reward. Please stop it. You can say it is a low-risk signing, because it is. It's only 1/$3M. But the concept is high risk / high reward or low risk / low reward, because risk isn't about what happened in the end. It's about the chances of something happening in the future. If there is a high chance of a high reward, that person isn't signing for $3M. It is also about the LIKELY reward, since obviously ANY investment could go big or go bad. Same in baseball as any other investment. So this is low risk / low reward. And that's fine. Now go get a bloody right fielder. Haha, think we said the opposite thing in the same way. It comes down to odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) It's high risk. There's a good chance he'll be banged up or ineffective. If the chances of him being healthy/good were higher, he would have signed for more than $3M. Its very much low-risk. For $3M he can be awful, and you put him through waivers. He probably clears it. Heck you can release him. Again, understanding how the terminology works... if you buy a stock for minimal money, risk is inherently low. If it dogs, you sell it. No big loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 11:24 AM) There is no such thing as low risk / high reward. Please stop it. You can say it is a low-risk signing, because it is. It's only 1/$3M. But the concept is high risk / high reward or low risk / low reward, because risk isn't about what happened in the end. It's about the chances of something happening in the future. If there is a high chance of a high reward, that person isn't signing for $3M. It is also about the LIKELY reward, since obviously ANY investment could go big or go bad. Same in baseball as any other investment. So this is low risk / low reward. And that's fine. Now go get a bloody right fielder. Bah - you know what the OP meant. There is a potential in signings for a low amount with a high value produced. IE: Nelson Cruz with Baltimore for 1 yr / 8 M = 36 home runs and 91 RBI ( 3.7 WAR ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) It's high risk. There's a good chance he'll be banged up or ineffective. If the chances of him being healthy/good were higher, he would have signed for more than $3M. Disagree. The risk is associated with what you give up to get the player. A $200 million contract is high risk. Giving up a large package of top prospects to get a player is high risk. A 1 year/3 million deal is not high risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 This is great. Love the move. Absolutely zero risk associated with it, and he's two years removed from being a top of the rotation guy. He was pretty terrible last year, but bounced around and his peripherals weren't all bad. LOVE LOVE LOVE the move. A little surprised he couldn't get more than $3M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:27 PM) For once, this is right. This is a three million dollar signing for a guy who when healthy can be a #2 starter, on a team that can use a RH SP at the top of their rotation. If the guy gives you problems, or sucks, you dump him. There really is not much risk when you consider he is only getting $2.5 million over minimum wage in MLB. Where else can you get a shot at a #2 starter for $3 million? Jose Quintana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just hope we don't see a follow-up tweet saying Sox are done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 12m12 minutes ago Mat Latos arrived in Chicago yesterday for physical. #WhiteSox Chicago media fails again. Also FWIW, it was Jerry Crasnik that had the signing first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Count me in as one who doesn't want Johnson to be traded now. That article on Fangraphs today noted we had the worst projected WAR from our SP after the top 3, and this includes all depth options as well. Latos will certainly help with that, but we don't know yet if he'll be healthy or effective, so we still need Johnson in case Latos doesn't work out. Edited February 9, 2016 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Does Erik Johnson have any minor league options left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:32 PM) Count me in as one who doesn't want Johnson to be traded now. That article on Fangraphs today noted we had the worst projected WAR from our SP after the top 3 , and this includes all depth options as well. Latos will certainly help with that, but we don't know yet if he'll be healthy or effective, so we still need Johnson in case Latos doesn't work out. No good reason to trade Johnson unless you are getting a good young RF for him. Odds are good you will need both him and Turner this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:32 PM) Does Erik Johnson have any minor league options left? 1 I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) gives us a league average starter from this list. Prior to getting Latos, our #4 and #5 are at the very very bottom of the list http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the-chang...pitching-ranks/ Edited February 9, 2016 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 02:22 PM) Didn't someone tweet out the Sox signed him like 5 weeks ago, only to delete it? Yeah, that was back in the last week of December. This one has been in the works for awhile it seems. A few posts down: http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...7597&st=100 Edited February 9, 2016 by dasox24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Well, there is the not insignificant risk that he doesn't mix well in the clubhouse, but we're not giving up a boatload like we did with Swisher at the time... Everyone felt the price tag without the pick attached was closer to $7-10 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Anyway possible to build a package around Johnson for Puig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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