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Do you think it will be one of the 4 remaining candidates, or will it be someone not currently in the race. If it isn't someone in the race, who do you think it will be? Romney, Jeb, Paul Ryan?

 

Personally, I think if they end up brokered, Kasich is the only standing who I think would have a chance and even than, I'm thinking it will be as the VP (I actually think he would be very high up on Trump's list, to be frank). I will point out, Kasich was on O'Reilly after the debate and very firmly said he is not interested in being the VP (how true that is, who knows).

 

My prediction is if it goes to a brokered convention, it will be Paul Ryan.

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I think they'd love Ryan, but I'm not convinced Ryan would do it. I think he wouldn't.

 

My guess is that Plan A is Rubio, or maybe Kasich. If they go outside the current group, if they can't get Ryan, I just don't see anyone that works. Romney again?

 

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Kasich has to say that because he's still in the race.

 

I think Romney enters himself after Rubio drops out (when he loses Florida) to try and force a brokered convention. I think he embarrasses himself even more than he already has and it fails to get there.

 

Cruz says he has no interest in a brokered convention. I believe him. He's not an establishment guy and that's more their power play. Hell support Trump and if Trump can win the GA it will benefit Cruz. Trump likes Cruz a lot even though it's not evident on the debate stage.

 

Paul Ryan I don't see it. Trying to do this could be a career ender if anything goes wrong. Hell, even if he won a brokered convention there'd be a huge revolt within the party and the nominee would get destroyed in the general. Ryan is too young to take that risk. Everyone knows he can be a great future candidate. No need to go down that path now.

 

Romney has nothing to lose so I can see him going for it. I just dont see it working out.

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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 06:16 PM)
I hate Hillary but will vote for her over Trump every day of the week.

 

Hillary will win in a landslide against Trump.

 

esp if Julian Castro is her VP

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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 02:49 PM)
Paul Ryan is a tea party nutter.

 

Romney would be the logical choice but they really should roll with Kasich.

 

Ryan isn't a traditional tea party type. He's actually a policy wonk and takes leadership very seriously. The opposite of Trump.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:03 PM)
Ryan isn't a traditional tea party type. He's actually a policy wonk and takes leadership very seriously. The opposite of Trump.

 

Just as the socialist tag hurts Sanders, the tea party tag will hurt Ryan. This is my opinion of course.

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:03 PM)
Ryan isn't a traditional tea party type. He's actually a policy wonk and takes leadership very seriously. The opposite of Trump.

 

That assumption sort of falls apart when you look at the policies and budgets he's proposed.

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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:05 PM)
Just as the socialist tag hurts Sanders, the tea party tag will hurt Ryan. This is my opinion of course.

I think Ryan is making all the right moves on that front. The as speaker it will be possible for him to somewhat separate himself from that tag and just get things done.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:13 PM)
That assumption sort of falls apart when you look at the policies and budgets he's proposed.

Not at all. Policy wonk doesn't mean "policies I agree with". His policy stuff is quite sound, even if I disagree with his approach in many cases.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:15 PM)
Not at all. Policy wonk doesn't mean "policies I agree with". His policy stuff is quite sound, even if I disagree with his approach in many cases.

Agreed. I lean middle-left, but I admit Paul Ryan is the best part of Republicanism at the moment.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 05:22 PM)
Do you think it will be one of the 4 remaining candidates, or will it be someone not currently in the race. If it isn't someone in the race, who do you think it will be? Romney, Jeb, Paul Ryan?

 

Personally, I think if they end up brokered, Kasich is the only standing who I think would have a chance and even than, I'm thinking it will be as the VP (I actually think he would be very high up on Trump's list, to be frank). I will point out, Kasich was on O'Reilly after the debate and very firmly said he is not interested in being the VP (how true that is, who knows).

 

My prediction is if it goes to a brokered convention, it will be Paul Ryan.

Kasich was on a radio show today and was emphatic he will refuse to be anybody's vice president. I can't imagine him being that forceful if he planned on being a VEEP. The host said "I think you will" and Kasich said there is no chance of that.

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A little off topic but I just thought of something somewhat interesting.

 

What if Trump and Bernie both do 3rd party runs and it's Hilary and Rubio/Cruz/Kasich/Romney(etc.)

 

Who would win that election?

 

There's no way Bernie runs as an independent if he gets the nomination. He knows he can't win and all he can do is prevent Hillary from winning, and as much as he may dislike Hillary he 100% wants her over any Republican.

 

But, in that hypothetical scenario, it's very unlikely anybody gets 270 electoral votes so the House gets to choose and they choose the non-Trump Republican.

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Kasich was on a radio show today and was emphatic he will refuse to be anybody's vice president. I can't imagine him being that forceful if he planned on being a VEEP. The host said "I think you will" and Kasich said there is no chance of that.

 

He very rightly should not give up being governor of a big state to be VP, especially since he really doesn't line up well policy-wise with Trump or Cruz anyway.

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Rubio is finished. He won't drop out until after Florida but he's finished.

 

Kasich is about 50/50 to win Ohio right now. If he doesn't, then he'll drop out and it will be Trump v Cruz to the end. My guess is Cruz would win.

 

If Kasich wins Ohio, then we probably get to the convention with nobody having a majority of delegates. Kasich tries to use the fact that he polls way better vs Hillary than either of the other two to try to get a brokered deal, but I can't see either of the other two going for that.

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 10:13 AM)
Rubio is finished. He won't drop out until after Florida but he's finished.

 

Kasich is about 50/50 to win Ohio right now. If he doesn't, then he'll drop out and it will be Trump v Cruz to the end. My guess is Cruz would win.

 

If Kasich wins Ohio, then we probably get to the convention with nobody having a majority of delegates. Kasich tries to use the fact that he polls way better vs Hillary than either of the other two to try to get a brokered deal, but I can't see either of the other two going for that.

I think Rubio will stay in, in the hopes of being the "brokered convention" candidate". However, I've been wrong before this year.

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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 10:01 AM)
A little off topic but I just thought of something somewhat interesting.

 

What if Trump and Bernie both do 3rd party runs and it's Hilary and Rubio/Cruz/Kasich/Romney(etc.)

 

Who would win that election?

 

That would be a fascinating situation, that's for sure.

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 7, 2016 -> 01:59 PM)
That would be a fascinating situation, that's for sure.

 

the way things go, imho it will go along the lines of race / gender voting. it will also go with who is the VP nom.

 

women of all colors = Hillary

Hispanic = depends on the dem VP but cruz ...... //// key to the main hispanic vote

African / americans = Hillary

LGBT = usually Dem party / Hillary

other Race = depends on the msg

white males = this is the wildcard..... for the biggest voting majority

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