Dick Allen Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: Diane Fienstein decided for months to withhold a vital piece of information from not only the public but also her fellow senators. I for one hope the report is released eventhough it was limed in scope due to time constraints we should be aware of the FBI findings. The only reason I can think of not doing so is to protect the privacy of those witnesses who cooperated with the FBI but even if the full report can't be released surely the summary of their findings can. Grassley statement on the report: “I’ve now received a committee staff briefing on the FBI’s supplement to Judge Kavanaugh’s background investigation file. There’s nothing in it that we didn’t already know. These uncorroborated accusations have been unequivocally and repeatedly rejected by Judge Kavanaugh, and neither the Judiciary Committee nor the FBI could locate any third parties who can attest to any of the allegations. There’s also no contemporaneous evidence. This investigation found no hint of misconduct and the same is true of the six prior FBI background investigations conducted during Judge Kavanaugh’s 25 years of public service.” Of course, you couldn't be miscategorizing it any more incorrectly, but let's just give it to you. Under that scenerio, just mentioning it, suggests an eye for an eye is OK. If that is so, why is was there even a discussion about Kavanaugh before the elections.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: Grassley statement on the report: “I’ve now received a committee staff briefing on the FBI’s supplement to Judge Kavanaugh’s background investigation file. There’s nothing in it that we didn’t already know. These uncorroborated accusations have been unequivocally and repeatedly rejected by Judge Kavanaugh, and neither the Judiciary Committee nor the FBI could locate any third parties who can attest to any of the allegations. There’s also no contemporaneous evidence. This investigation found no hint of misconduct and the same is true of the six prior FBI background investigations conducted during Judge Kavanaugh’s 25 years of public service.” Absolutely hilarious. Of course you can't find any one to attest to any of the allegations when you are actively refusing to interview third parties with information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, whitesoxfan99 said: Absolutely hilarious. Of course you can't find any one to attest to any of the allegations when you are actively refusing to interview third parties with information. Even more hilarious, the rules don't apply to this guy: Senators are not allowed to discuss or characterize in detail what they've read (though they most certainly will try.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Susan Collins “it appears to be a very thorough investigation.” It is ova, as is her career. It's a 3 day investigation. How is that thorough? How dumb is the American public? Even people on the right should be embarrassed by comments like this one. Edited October 4, 2018 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 We really have no idea what's in that report, and won't. And that's utter B.S. They can redact names if they need to but holding the report from the public and putting a gag on Senators to even discuss it in public? That makes the process a sham, even if the report itself may not have been. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Susan Collins “it appears to be a very thorough investigation.” It is ova, as is her career. Yup he's getting confirmed. Edited October 4, 2018 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 There was never any doubt that this whole process was a sham, and that Kavanaugh would be confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Susan Collins “it appears to be a very thorough investigation.” It is ova, as is her career. It might be thorough, but how would we know? She may be right. Let's see how the triad votes (or declares how they will vote). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, southsider2k5 said: There was never any doubt that this whole process was a sham, and that Kavanaugh would be confirmed. Well of course there was a doubt, and still is, about his confirmation. But the way they are handling this report is indeed a sham, as many feared, you are right about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I cant wait for the future. I hope I get to witness the last dinosaur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 It will be interesting to see what some red state Dems do now it looks like he will be confirmed. Heidi has fallen 10 points behind Cramer. Manchin lead is shrinking. via the Daily Beast: Substitute Sen. Joe Manchin’s name and an almost identical ad is blanketing the airwaves in West Virginia. Pre-Kavanaugh, Manchin was running comfortably ahead by double digits by wielding like a club his protection of coal miners and others who depend on coverage of pre-existing conditions against opponent Attorney General Patrick Morrisey, who’s suing the federal government to end such coverage. In what could be a life-or-death vote for those afflicted by opioid addiction or black lung disease, Manchin has lost four points this month as Republicans increasingly side with the person who would take their health care away. You’d think Kavanaugh, who enjoys a 56-26 approval in the state, were on the ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Kavanaugh has already assured Collins he won't overturn Roe v Wade, and one thing we do know is he never lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said: Well of course there was a doubt, and still is, about his confirmation. But the way they are handling this report is indeed a sham, as many feared, you are right about that. Maybe I should have been more specific, but there was never any doubt in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: There was never any doubt that this whole process was a sham, and that Kavanaugh would be confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: Diane Fienstein decided for months to withhold a vital piece of information from not only the public but also her fellow senators so maybe this is the new normal. I for one hope the report is released eventhough it was limed in scope due to time constraints we should be aware of the FBI findings. The only reason I can think of not doing so is to protect the privacy of those witnesses who cooperated with the FBI but even if the full report can't be released surely the summary of their findings can. Grassley statement on the report: “I’ve now received a committee staff briefing on the FBI’s supplement to Judge Kavanaugh’s background investigation file. There’s nothing in it that we didn’t already know. These uncorroborated accusations have been unequivocally and repeatedly rejected by Judge Kavanaugh, and neither the Judiciary Committee nor the FBI could locate any third parties who can attest to any of the allegations. There’s also no contemporaneous evidence. This investigation found no hint of misconduct and the same is true of the six prior FBI background investigations conducted during Judge Kavanaugh’s 25 years of public service.” Diane Fienstein didnt release the information because the person who gave her the information asked her not to. Are you saying she should have against Ford's wishes and released it without her approval? Not to mention it has nothing to do with what is going on right now. The Republican's could release the information, they are choosing not to. Perhaps you dont care about the truth or transparency. Its become abundantly clear you dont care about the Supreme Court or US laws. Win some, lose some. But you cant fight time and you cant fight the inevitable. One day the dinosaurs will go extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Real people to watch are: McCaskill Tester Jones Hedi Manchin We may end up seeing Republicans pick another SCJ before 2020. Interesting to see if the Dems hang these guys out to dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Both Flake and Collins say nothing corroborating, very thorough. So it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Welp enjoy getting voted out in 2020 Collins hahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 These senators must really think Americans are dumb, well some, but a majority of us know what it is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whitesoxfan99 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, pettie4sox said: These senators must really think Americans are dumb, well some, but a majority of us know what it is going on. Americans are dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I don't get why so many people are upset with the process. Clearly the FBI thing was just a stall tactic to try and hold Kavanaugh out as long as they can and hope it pushed past the Nov. voting (I don't blame them). But people.... There is exactly zero evidence. That's one thing great about america is you're innocent until proven guilty. I mean geez, even her childhood best friend could vouch that she knew of a party like that or ever met Kavanaugh. The whole thing was fishy. IDK how you can't at least acknowledge that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: I don't get why so many people are upset with the process. Clearly the FBI thing was just a stall tactic to try and hold Kavanaugh out as long as they can and hope it pushed past the Nov. voting (I don't blame them). But people.... There is exactly zero evidence. That's one thing great about america is you're innocent until proven guilty. I mean geez, even her childhood best friend could vouch that she knew of a party like that or ever met Kavanaugh. The whole thing was fishy. IDK how you can't at least acknowledge that. The FBI investigation with a one week time frame and of limited scope was a stall tactic by the Democrats even though it needed to be ordered by Republicans and they set the parameters. Got it. Fantastic critical thinking. This FBI investigation was cover for Jeff Flake, Murkowski and Collins who are all cowards and were scared to vote yes. Nothing more. There is corroborating evidence about Ramirez's allegation against Kavanaugh. The FBI just was prohibited from looking into it and the GOP wouldn't let her testify before Congress. Plenty of evidence Kavanaugh has lied under oath repeatedly. The Ford allegation is absolutely a he said/she said situation but let's not act like that is the only allegation facing Kavanaugh or that he hasn't broken the law repeatedly by lying under oath. Kavanaugh has clearly demonstrated he is not suited to be a supreme court justice but go team GOP I guess. Party before country. Let me also say that Kavanaugh is not under trial, there is no presumption of innocence when you are on a job interview. My company would never have hired this guy in a million years under these circumstances but he is going to be on the Supreme Court without a real investigation. Amazing. Edited October 4, 2018 by whitesoxfan99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, whitesoxfan99 said: The FBI investigation with a one week time frame and of limited scope was a stall tactic by the Democrats even though it needed to be ordered by Republicans and they set the parameters. Got it. Fantastic critical thinking. This FBI investigation was cover for Jeff Flake, Murkowski and Collins who are all cowards and were scared to vote yes. Nothing more. There is corroborating evidence about Ramirez's allegation against Kavanaugh. The FBI just was prohibited from looking into it and the GOP wouldn't let her testify before Congress. Plenty of evidence Kavanaugh has lied under oath repeatedly. The Ford allegation is absolutely a he said/she said situation but let's not act like that is the only allegation facing Kavanaugh or that he hasn't broken the law repeatedly by lying under oath. Kavanaugh has clearly demonstrated he is not suited to be a supreme court justice but go team GOP I guess. Party before country. You're kidding right?? The entire time the democratics hounded Kavanaugh to have an FBI investigation KNOWING it does absolutely nothing and will provide nothing new... Of course it was a stall tactic. And it worked (slightly). Just didn't stall it long enough, for now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, cjgalloway said: You're kidding right?? The entire time the democratics hounded Kavanaugh to have an FBI investigation KNOWING it does absolutely nothing and will provide nothing new... Of course it was a stall tactic. And it worked (slightly). Just didn't stall it long enough, for now Yes, that line of questioning was grandstanding to show people that he didn't want an investigation to imply he didn't want the truth found out and they called for an investigation, which there absolutely should have been. A stall tactic only works if you are the one who gets to do the stalling though. Republicans set the parameters for the investigation and the coward Jeff Flake is ultimately the one who got the investigation going so he could have cover for his upcoming yes vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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