iWiN4PreP Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I agree, the two champs are awesome right now. WWE now needs a good guy, a face. John Cena's been that guy for quite some time. Rollins is OK, I think. Reigns fails miserably. Over on SD you don't have much going on. I could see Slater be that guy with some molding over time (he seems very likeable in his character). When Nakumara comes up, he could be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 11, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) AJ Styles and Kevin Owens are your two main champions...f'n amazing. Owens, Styles, Nakamura. What??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 07:43 AM) I agree, the two champs are awesome right now. WWE now needs a good guy, a face. John Cena's been that guy for quite some time. Rollins is OK, I think. Reigns fails miserably. Over on SD you don't have much going on. I could see Slater be that guy with some molding over time (he seems very likeable in his character). When Nakumara comes up, he could be great. The thing that drives me crazy is Smackdown and Raw have thin rosters, Raw is made worse that it's 3 hours, that will be partially helped next week when the Cruiserweight division starts (From what I've heard is Metallik (who has been tearing it up in his wrap-up shows in CMLL), Gallagher, Cedrik Alexander, Tozawa (!!!), Swan, Perkins have been signed, obviously could be more. Gargano and Ciampa are under deals, but not sure if they'll stay in NXT and continue feud with the Revival) but won't be given a whole hour. (Sabre likely won't sign and Ibushi can if he wants, and would win it if he did, but supposedly doesn't want a WWE exclusive deal, which could all be a work at the end of the day). They have Nak, Joe (his injury is a work), Aries, Roode, the Revival, Ciampa and Gargano (and I'm sure I'm missing others) that can step into the main rosters and provide very good work, however, NXT is such an independent touring brand, they need them for the house shows and keep the brand with established names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) The thing that drives me crazy is Smackdown and Raw have thin rosters, Raw is made worse that it's 3 hours, that will be partially helped next week when the Cruiserweight division starts (From what I've heard is Metallik (who has been tearing it up in his wrap-up shows in CMLL), Gallagher, Cedrik Alexander, Tozawa (!!!), Swan, Perkins have been signed, obviously could be more. Gargano and Ciampa are under deals, but not sure if they'll stay in NXT and continue feud with the Revival) but won't be given a whole hour. (Sabre likely won't sign and Ibushi can if he wants, and would win it if he did, but supposedly doesn't want a WWE exclusive deal, which could all be a work at the end of the day). They have Nak, Joe (his injury is a work), Aries, Roode, the Revival, Ciampa and Gargano (and I'm sure I'm missing others) that can step into the main rosters and provide very good work, however, NXT is such an independent touring brand, they need them for the house shows and keep the brand with established names. Rumor has it that both Gargano and Ciampa will be in the cruiserweight division. For a little bit I'm sure they'll both work NXT and raw. Kendrick is going to be in the division as well. Sabre and Ibushi are the two main guys that aren't signed who I wouldn't be shocked to see down the not so distant road. I'm sure they'll pursue Ricochet when his LU contract is up too. There are a lot of people in NXT that should be on the main roster but yes, while they're a touring brand they're not going to gut the whole roster. I'm sure Joe gets one more match with Nak and then gets moved up though. Edited September 12, 2016 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) Rumor has it that both Gargano and Ciampa will be in the cruiserweight division. For a little bit I'm sure they'll both work NXT and raw. Kendrick is going to be in the division as well. Sabre and Ibushi are the two main guys that aren't signed who I wouldn't be shocked to see down the not so distant road. I'm sure they'll pursue Ricochet when his LU contract is up too. There are a lot of people in NXT that should be on the main roster but yes, while they're a touring brand they're not going to gut the whole roster. I'm sure Joe gets one more match with Nak and then gets moved up though. This is one of those unofficial/official things. The issue is he's in Ultimate Lucha 3 that won't air until June, then theoretically there's a window he still couldn't appear on TV for someone else for a set time after that. He's told LU he isn't coming back and he'll work U.S. indys and NJPW until he can go to WWE (again, all can change, obviously). There's a chance WWE and Ricochet may push the no compete as he's masked in LU so an argument can be made there's no market confusion, but we shall see. BTW, I should list it more, but I generally get anything I put here from Wrestling Observer, either Meltzer's newsletter or the radio shows/podcasts with him and Alvarez (or some of the ones Alvarez does with others). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Does Joe still take indy bookings despite the NXT deal? Thought he said when he first came in he had an original deal. Makes me question if his goal is the main roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 04:05 PM) Does Joe still take indy bookings despite the NXT deal? Thought he said when he first came in he had an original deal. Makes me question if his goal is the main roster. When he first started it seemed he was just going to be a part time NXTer and still do the indy stuff. He's all in on NXT now though and I'm sure he'll be on the main roster soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) When he first started it seemed he was just going to be a part time NXTer and still do the indy stuff. He's all in on NXT now though and I'm sure he'll be on the main roster soon. He and Roode should be up tomorrow. Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 04:14 PM) He and Roode should be up tomorrow. Ha After Styles is done with Ambrose, a face Joe should be his next challenger as there is just no other credible face on that roster with Orton broke and Cena gone. It'd be kind of funny if they had Joe-Styles at mania for the belt in Orlando just as a huge kick in the nads to TNA. Obviously they should be above something like that but seems like a thing Vince would get a kick out of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 04:19 PM) After Styles is done with Ambrose, a face Joe should be his next challenger as there is just no other credible face on that roster with Orton broke and Cena gone. It'd be kind of funny if they had Joe-Styles at mania for the belt in Orlando just as a huge kick in the nads to TNA. Obviously they should be above something like that but seems like a thing Vince would get a kick out of doing. How about Joe comes up to help Shane when Shane feuds with Brock? Joe could be the guy to beat Brock at mania and be shot to the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) How about Joe comes up to help Shane when Shane feuds with Brock? Joe could be the guy to beat Brock at mania and be shot to the moon. I'd be cool with that but I'm sure we're just getting a Brock-Shane match at some point. I have no interest in that whatsoever but people like watching Brock throw people and Shane be a crazy person so as much as I don't want to see it, a lot of other people will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 04:45 PM) I'd be cool with that but I'm sure we're just getting a Brock-Shane match at some point. I have no interest in that whatsoever but people like watching Brock throw people and Shane be a crazy person so as much as I don't want to see it, a lot of other people will. You're cranky and hate everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) You're cranky and hate everything Only hate your boys Brock and Randy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 When's Cena due back? I hope it doesn't happen but i smell a Cena title run coming up here real soon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 QUOTE (TheCut87 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 06:59 PM) When's Cena due back? I hope it doesn't happen but i smell a Cena title run coming up here real soon..... If there is a next one, it'll be sacred number 16 so WWE has to be thinking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Smackdown weekly show is awesome and this first segment is fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Some good thoughts in this thread. A brock vs. Joe WM match would kick ass and be smart as hell if they put over Joe that way. They won't tho. I am really liking the fact that matches now get more time on the PPV's. That is a great thing for story building of matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 James Ellsworth is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 I like this Dean and this Alexa. Man she leaves me speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 DB and Alexa on Talking Smack was everything. Hoping we're going full Dean heel turn too. Get him away from his goofy schtick and back to being serious on the mic, whole different guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yes, the DB/Alexa interaction was great. Alexa has become so comfortable talking from when she first came to NXT. I'll watch that segment again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 08:30 AM) Yes, the DB/Alexa interaction was great. Alexa has become so comfortable talking from when she first came to NXT. I'll watch that segment again and again. If it has Alexa, I'd watch it on mute again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 CWC Spoiler........ ......Love seeing TJP win it. Gargano, Ciampa, and Swan were already over with the crowd and Ibushi/Sabre aren't signed so it makes sense to get someone else over and TJP is the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 07:58 AM) CWC Spoiler........ ......Love seeing TJP win it. Gargano, Ciampa, and Swan were already over with the crowd and Ibushi/Sabre aren't signed so it makes sense to get someone else over and TJP is the right choice. As soon as Sabre lost, I figured Ibushi would as well for some reason. Perkins definitely looked the best this tourney. They gave him wins over the top guys in there pretty much, outside of Sabre. If WWE signed Ibushi, I don't think I'd want him in cruiserweight division anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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