BigHurt3515 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:51 PM) For me it started with pulling Latos with 3 run lead in the 7th at 80ish pitches. With the 7-8-9 hitters coming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I don't know if Latos said he was gassed, sure didn't look it after that 6th inning. But if there was no reason to give Latos the hook why on earth would Robin not just let him go 7 and only use Duke for one inning? Then you can trot your favorite bum Albers out there in the 9th on a short leash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 23, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) For me it started with pulling Latos with 3 run lead in the 7th at 80ish pitches. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Not just on Robin/Albers/Duke, but the offense at well for leaving so many runners on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:51 PM) For me it started with pulling Latos with 3 run lead in the 7th at 80ish pitches. I'm fine with it since Latos can go downhill so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I pray they win this game and someone starts to realize that the Sox have a good team this year, or at least a solid one, and you cannot be f***ing around with a s*** manager like RV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:50 PM) You never boo your own team, no matter what. That's some classless Cubs fans s*** You do if you paid your money you earned and the player or players deserve it. Albers does as does Ventura. They both f***ing suck. If I sucked at my job as much as they do I would have been fired a week ago (in Albers' case) and 1.5 years ago (in Robin's case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 23, 2016 -> 07:53 PM) Not just on Robin/Albers/Duke, but the offense at well for leaving so many runners on. Would help not bunting with your best hitter at the plate and nobody out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) Duke pitching to Santana and Kipnis at least made a little sense. Using Albers over Jones was simply awful. It made tons of sense if he didn't use him in the 7th inning against the 7-8-9 hitters when Robin knows Santana who is awful against LHP, Kipnis, and Lindor were coming up in the 8th. It was f***ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Yeah, you can't use Albers against the heart of that line-up and two runners on already. Starting out the inning, maybe. Just that stupid, "well, it's a four run lead so we're going to use Nate Jones when we really need him" thinking that's textbook but not really fully aware of the game situation as well as Albers' completely lack of effectiveness/confidence recently. Edited May 23, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:53 PM) I pray they win this game and someone starts to realize that the Sox have a good team this year, or at least a solid one, and you cannot be f***ing around with a s*** manager like RV. They could use anothe solid #3-#4 SP and 2-3 good relievers, or they won't have a good or solid team by September Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Scoring 7 runs the pen needs to lock it down. I know they left a lot on base but they're not a great hitting team so they're gona do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) You do if you paid your money you earned and the player or players deserve it. Albers does as does Ventura. They both f***ing suck. If I sucked at my job as much as they do I would have been fired a week ago (in Albers' case) and 1.5 years ago (in Robin's case) You can't just release a RP who has had a tough 4-5 games, they all do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 You take no chances when you have Erik Johnson going in game 2 and knowing Sale goes tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Really nervous about Robo after the way he finished the game last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Robin should have let Albers start the 8th. Career-wise, Santana is worse against righties than lefties. Kipnis is better vs. righties, but it's not like he got out vs. Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) You do if you paid your money you earned and the player or players deserve it. Albers does as does Ventura. They both f***ing suck. If I sucked at my job as much as they do I would have been fired a week ago (in Albers' case) and 1.5 years ago (in Robin's case) To my way of thinking, booing can only hurt the morale of a team that obviously is already struggling to gain momentum and get something positive going again. And it might add to the swagger of a visiting team already enjoying more success than the home crowd wants to see. So in those ways, it seems like booing actually could hurt the team you profess to support. That doesn’t make any sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The offense did fine 7 runs is plenty esp if Latos gives them 6 decent innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ May 23, 2016 -> 05:54 PM) You do if you paid your money you earned and the player or players deserve it. Albers does as does Ventura. They both f***ing suck. If I sucked at my job as much as they do I would have been fired a week ago (in Albers' case) and 1.5 years ago (in Robin's case) I agree. These fans are paying their money for the game. It's their right. It's not classless in that situation. I'm tired of that nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 They don't need 2-3 relievers, but they do need for Petricka to come back and replace Albers effectively or to replace him with someone else entirely. Duke's another question mark. Jennings might have to flip flop with him, but Duke just usually doesn't go 5-6 batters in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Bad feeling about this one after giving up 3 in the 9th. Ventura should have learned that Albers should not be in there in high leverage situations. Really sad if this key game in the season gets thrown away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The last game where everything went right for us was the first game against the Yankees. Recently, one thing or another screws us over in games. It might be the bullpen in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:56 PM) Robin should have let Albers start the 8th. Career-wise, Santana is worse against righties than lefties. Kipnis is better vs. righties, but it's not like he got out vs. Duke. No, you use Albers in the 7th when you are up by 3 and the bottom third coming up in the line up. You then use Duke for Santana, Kipnis, and Lindor if neither of the other 2 get on and if they do you go to Nate Jones. It is really that simple. And no Santana is hitting .150 against LHP Edited May 24, 2016 by BigHurt3515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 23, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) Robin should have let Albers start the 8th. Career-wise, Santana is worse against righties than lefties. Kipnis is better vs. righties, but it's not like he got out vs. Duke. How can the fans see this but not him? I just don't get it. He's a f***ing idiot and costing wins for this club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) No, you use Albers in the 7th when you are up by 3 and the bottom third coming up in the line up. You then use Duke for Santana, Kipnis, and Lindor if neither of the other 2 get on and if they do you go to Nate Jones. It is really that simple I agree, but Robin already used Duke for the 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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