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Heyman not hinting at anything of value going to Pads...

 

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 38s39 seconds ago

Shields will lengthen chisox rotation, padres get $ relief once finalized. @BNightengale @Ken_Rosenthal @sdutdennislin on it

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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 01:46 PM)
I'm not going to feel good about this unless the Sox give up next to nothing. Shields is showing a lot of signs that he's cooked.

If his last start wasn't as bad as it was, would you be saying that? He had a bad start. It happens. Every other game this season that he's pitched, he's always less than 4 runs with the exception of two (four each game).

 

Is he the same pitcher he was 3 years ago? Obviously not. No one gets younger, but "cooked" is harsh.

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QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 01:54 PM)
If his last start wasn't as bad as it was, would you be saying that? He had a bad start. It happens. Every other game this season that he's pitched, he's always less than 4 runs with the exception of two (four each game).

 

Is he the same pitcher he was 3 years ago? Obviously not. No one gets younger, but "cooked" is harsh.

 

His ERA was actually 3.06 before his last start.

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QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 01:55 PM)
His ERA was actually 3.06 before his last start.

But his FIP was drastically worse

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QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 01:55 PM)
His ERA was actually 3.06 before his last start.

Which is why I said before his last start, no one would have said he's cooked.

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QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:05 PM)
Well Jon Jay would certainly be an upgrade over Shuck and Avi.

 

Platoon him with Jackson moving Jackson to backup OF most of the time.

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QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:07 PM)
I hope Avisail is a Padre, quite frankly.

 

I could see him going the other way. A young project with control. Seems like the kind of guy that seems right for a deal like this.

Edited by soxfan2014

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QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:07 PM)
I hope Avisail is a Padre, quite frankly.

 

Probably would be better to be part of a trade for a hitter

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Yeah, Eaton/Jackson/Cabrera/Garcia/Shuck/Sands/Coats/Jay... something's gotta give there and my hope is it's Sands and Garcia

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QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:09 PM)
Which is why I said before his last start, no one would have said he's cooked.

Read the first few pages of this thread, many posters were against the idea

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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:09 PM)
Platoon him with Jackson moving Jackson to backup OF most of the time.

 

Honestly if he hits better then Jackson and can play adequate cf I would have jay starting most of the time

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If Jay is included I see him in left at times with Melky moving to DH

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QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:11 PM)
Honestly if he hits better then Jackson and can play adequate cf I would have jay starting most of the time

 

Yeah...and the left handed part of a platoon does that.

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:12 PM)
If Jay is included I see him in left at times with Melky moving to DH

 

Could see him replacing Jackson and Sox still going to get a LH hitter for dh

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Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 40s41 seconds ago

Padres, chisox have agreed on the principals of shields deal, with only details to go

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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 02:18 PM)
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 40s41 seconds ago

Padres, chisox have agreed on the principals of shields deal, with only details to go

 

Probably going to need to be approved by commissioner since money might be involved

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