ChiSox59 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:32 AM) It is a bit weird that they'd protect Carroll over Hector Sanchez. Why would any other MLB team want Carroll desperately? Despite all the MLB pitchers we've gone through, we still haven't used Carroll or Turner. So now we're going to have to sacrifice Narvaez to the wolves. Not that he was a top prospect or anything. Reminds us, though, that stowing away the A+/AA Cuban catcher from the Nationals for an entire year had ZERO payoff at all. He's where he would be invaluable...or would have been, that experience. Yah, you think it would have been worthwhile to hold onto Nieto a bit longer. I guess they preferred Smith - I guess that will happen when you watch a guy hit .200 at AAA. FWIW, Neito is hitting .165 in AAA right now. And technically Carroll did make an appearance for the Sox this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:32 AM) It is a bit weird that they'd protect Carroll over Hector Sanchez. Why would any other MLB team want Carroll desperately? Despite all the MLB pitchers we've gone through, we still haven't used Carroll or Turner. So now we're going to have to sacrifice Narvaez to the wolves. Not that he was a top prospect or anything. Reminds us, though, that stowing away the A+/AA Cuban catcher from the Nationals for an entire year had ZERO payoff at all. He's where he would be invaluable...or would have been, that experience. There was no need to protect Carroll, except that the org. likes him. Sox have 5 Carrolls in Charlotte. Turner has gotten shelled in Charlotte. Yes, they could have stashed any number of catchers..but they still shouldn't have any problem finding some guy who can at least catch. Edited July 6, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 They should trade for Alex Rios to play catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:15 AM) Considering Avila's injury history, they should have had one of those AAAA guys or grizzled veterans who have played for 1/2 the league stashed away in Charlotte. maybe they do. They actually had that one guy, but released him to "clear room" on the 40. but the 40 contained such luminaries as Scott Carroll et al. AJ will be in town this weekend, maybe he could stick around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:43 AM) They should trade for Alex Rios to play catcher. I can't wait for the Cargo rumors to heat up. Look forward to all of the drooling, oogling, genuflection and five player package suggestions for the player who can't outhit Rios outside of Coors field. I'll go ahead and suggest L Garcia right now. Edited July 6, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Last time I looked, AJ pretty much had the lowest WAR of any catcher or even ANY player in the majors this year with 150-175+ AB's. Edited July 6, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:27 AM) Many do. But the #3 is usually not a highly valued property, unless you're fortunate enough to have a good AAA prospect, which most teams don't. Hate? I don't hate people because they don't need a spot on the 40. It's supposed to be a professional baseball organization, not a holiday camp for friends. No. Many teams don't have a good #1 catcher, let alone 3. They may have 3 stiff bodies, which is exactly where the Sox are right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (The Gooch @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) AJ will be in town this weekend, maybe he could stick around Why? Does Bossard someone to mow the grass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Hector Sanchez made it through waivers with SD. Adrien Nieto was kept on the Sox in a rebuilding 2014 to add depth to a rebuilding team. He hit .207 with a .660 OPS in AA last year, and in AAA this season is raking to a tune of .165/.263/.214. We really should be complaining they let him leave. They have a couple more catchers in the minors on the DL , including one that played for the 2014 KC Royals, so you know he must be worthy, but they are on the DL. Rottino or whatever his name is does have some major league experience, but they are down to their 6th or 7th catcher. No organization is going to have a good solution for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Announcing? Wrestling event taking place? Florida Gators or Johnny Damon are in town? Edited July 6, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:59 AM) Announcing? Wrestling event taking place? Florida Gators or Johnny Damon are in town? He plays for White Sox South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:59 AM) Hector Sanchez made it through waivers with SD. Adrien Nieto was kept on the Sox in a rebuilding 2014 to add depth to a rebuilding team. He hit .207 with a .660 OPS in AA last year, and in AAA this season is raking to a tune of .165/.263/.214. We really should be complaining they let him leave. They have a couple more catchers in the minors on the DL , including one that played for the 2014 KC Royals, so you know he must be worthy, but they are on the DL. Rottino or whatever his name is does have some major league experience, but they are down to their 6th or 7th catcher. No organization is going to have a good solution for that. Other than Kevan Smith, who is on the DL, what #4-6 catchers are you referring to exactly that are being bypassed to get us to Omar Narvaez? You're counting Sanchez, even though he's no longer with the organization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:32 AM) Which was 2.5 months ago. Guess who is on the DL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) Other than Kevan Smith, who is on the DL, what #4-6 catchers are you referring to exactly that are being bypassed to get us to Omar Narvaez? You're counting Sanchez, even though he's no longer with the organization? 1. Avila 2. Navarro 3. Smith 4. Sanchez 5. Brett Hayes (played for Dayton Moore and the Royals in 2014, stud) 6. whatever is next. And yes I am counting Sanchez because they still wanted him around but unless the Sox planned on carrying 3 catchers, he needed to clear waivers, which he didn't. Seems you and greensox don't know much about the rules either. Edited July 6, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) Why? Does Bossard someone to mow the grass? No, to catch for Buehrle when he returns to replace Rodon for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Kings ransom for Lucroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 11:27 AM) Many do. But the #3 is usually not a highly valued property, unless you're fortunate enough to have a good AAA prospect, which most teams don't. Hate? I don't hate people because they don't need a spot on the 40. It's supposed to be a professional baseball organization, not a holiday camp for friends. It wasn't a spot on the 40. He is out of options, he needed to clear outright waivers to go back to Charlotte. He did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 12:47 PM) It wasn't a spot on the 40. He is out of options, he needed to clear outright waivers to go back to Charlotte. He did not. And I honestly believe they were saving Sanchez in the event of an extended injury to one of their catchers and purposely called up Smith instead due to the short-term nature. Hard to blame them for calling up Sanchez and losing him when the guy they were hoping to fill in temporarily got injured before his first game. The Sox did nothing wrong here and actually were proactive about having catching depth in AAA. Just some bad luck that has put them in a bind now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Chicago White Sox @whitesox 1m1 minute ago Prior to tonight’s game, the #WhiteSox placed Alex Avila on the 15-day DL and purchased the contract of catcher Omar Narvaez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Hopefully he heals quickly. The good news is there are about as many off days in this 15 days as any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian310 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 01:17 PM) Hopefully he heals quickly. The good news is there are about as many off days in this 15 days as any. Certainly. And being a catcher, you get more days off more often than other positions so it's really not that terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 If Hayes really COULD catch, he would be on the White Sox right now...that's like calling Saladino a catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 01:40 PM) If Hayes really COULD catch, he would be on the White Sox right now...that's like calling Saladino a catcher. He is on the DL, so no, he wouldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 44m44 minutes ago Jake Petricka transferred to 60-day DL to make room for Narvaez on 40-man roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 12:45 PM) He is on the DL, so no, he wouldn't be. Let's just put it this way. He's a career 609 OPS guy in the majors in 434 career AB's. That makes Avi Garcia look good, almost. We MIGHT be better off with Nieto...who's the better defender. Edited July 6, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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