Thome to the DL

[joeynach]

According to rotoworld.com

 

According to the Chicago Tribune, Jim Thome (rib) may be held out of this weekend's games.

Manager Ozzie Guillen said Thursday that he doesn't expect Thome to be placed on the disabled list.

 

Damn our lineup gets kinda of weak with the big guy in there to change the dynamic of things. Oh well rather he sit a few now and get healthy cuz we are defiantly gonna need him all summer long.

[BigSqwert]

Thome sucks. He's not clutch.

[Kalapse]

If Thome is out for any extended period of time this team is pretty f***ed.

[southsider2k5]

I just want to know how this is Ozzie's fault.

[jackie hayes]

I just want to know how this is Ozzie's fault.

See, and I heard Brian Anderson pushed Thome down the stairs. He's got a bad attitude, you know.

[southsider2k5]

See, and I heard Brian Anderson pushed Thome down the stairs. He's got a bad attitude, you know.

 

But Pods got behind him on his hands and knees to help!

[witesoxfan]

If all that's true, it's quite obvious that Ozzie wasn't at the bottom of the stairs to catch him. Ozzie, please do something right for once.

[AddisonStSox]

I just want to know how this is Ozzie's fault.

 

[jackie hayes]

But Pods got behind him on his hands and knees to help!

He was supposed to help, but he took a bad route and never made it.

[southsider2k5]

If all that's true, it's quite obvious that Ozzie wasn't at the bottom of the stairs to catch him. Ozzie, please do something right for once.

 

The problem is that he was supposed to bring in Jenks at the bottom of the stairs to pad the fall, and instead he put Mackowiak in the center of the stairs. Anderson was supposed to be the pusher, but he pushed and missed. Luckily Konerko came up and fell into a double play knocking them both down.

[ShoeLessRob]

But Pods got behind him on his hands and knees to help!

 

Yea Pods likes it on his knee's.

[DrunkBomber]

The problem is that he was supposed to bring in Jenks at the bottom of the stairs to pad the fall, and instead he put Mackowiak in the center of the stairs. Anderson was supposed to be the pusher, but he pushed and missed. Luckily Konerko came up and fell into a double play knocking them both down.

Thats not it at all, Ozzie wanted Toby Hall at the bottom of the stirs to catch him.

[Kalapse]

To add some actual discussion to this, if Thome does hit the DL with a rather serious muscle pull I fully expect a move to be made, there are no position players in AAA with a .700 OPS right now so expecting any of them to come up and produce at even a mediocre rate is probably asking a bit much. Dye would probably be moved to the DH spot considering his age, defensive abilities and injury concerns (that's if he's healthy of course). That would make the outfield Ozuna - Erstad - Mackowiak, quite possibly the worst in baseball.

 

Considering an abdominal strain could linger throughout the year especially with Thome's violent swing a bat would probably need to be brought in to make up for the loss.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

The problem is that he was supposed to bring in Jenks at the bottom of the stairs to pad the fall, and instead he put Mackowiak in the center of the stairs. Anderson was supposed to be the pusher, but he pushed and missed. Luckily Konerko came up and fell into a double play knocking them both down.

 

You forgot to add ERSTAD SUCKS!!!

[LosMediasBlancas]

If all that's true, it's quite obvious that Ozzie wasn't at the bottom of the stairs to catch him. Ozzie, please do something right for once.

 

 

I bet if Thome was Latin, Ozzie would've caught him.

[Balta1701]

To add some actual discussion to this, if Thome does hit the DL with a rather serious muscle pull I fully expect a move to be made, there are no position players in AAA with a .700 OPS right now so expecting any of them to come up and produce at even a mediocre rate is probably asking a bit much. Dye would probably be moved to the DH spot considering his age, defensive abilities and injury concerns (that's if he's healthy of course). That would make the outfield Ozuna - Erstad - Mackowiak, quite possibly the worst in baseball.

 

Considering an abdominal strain could linger throughout the year especially with Thome's violent swing a bat would probably need to be brought in to make up for the loss.

Can someone name me a bat at the level of anything remotely close to Mr. Thome which might actually be available on the trade market?

 

Hell, if it comes down to Thome being gone for a long time, the biggest bat available on the trade market could well be Jermaine Dye.

[southsider2k5]

You forgot to add ERSTAD SUCKS!!!

 

I was getting to THAT! GAWD!

[Kalapse]

Can someone name me a bat at the level of anything remotely close to Mr. Thome which might actually be available on the trade market?

 

Hell, if it comes down to Thome being gone for a long time, the biggest bat available on the trade market could well be Jermaine Dye.

It would be impossible to fully replace Thome's offensive production but something would need to be done. At this point in the season it's not widely known who is available exactly but I'm sure if Thome did hit the DL we'd hear some names thrown out there in the press.

[Balta1701]

It would be impossible to fully replace Thome's offensive production but something would need to be done. At this point in the season it's not widely known who is available exactly but I'm sure if Thome did hit the DL we'd hear some names thrown out there in the press.

Yes, you'd hear some names thrown out in the press, but simply consider this...with that gigantic of a production loss, who would be available that we'd even have a shot at? And beyond that, how much do you give up? Say hypothetically I found someone who would give me a player who could put up the same production Carl Everett gave the Sox in 05 out of the DH slot, but it was going to cost a major pitcher to pull it off. Along the lines of Gio, or maybe a couple of lesser guys instead. Is it really going to be worth trading away all of that depth we just built in our minor leagues for an in-between guy, which is probably all that will be available unless the Braves tank?

[Kalapse]

Yes, you'd hear some names thrown out in the press, but simply consider this...with that gigantic of a production loss, who would be available that we'd even have a shot at? And beyond that, how much do you give up? Say hypothetically I found someone who would give me a player who could put up the same production Carl Everett gave the Sox in 05 out of the DH slot, but it was going to cost a major pitcher to pull it off. Along the lines of Gio, or maybe a couple of lesser guys instead. Is it really going to be worth trading away all of that depth we just built in our minor leagues for an in-between guy, which is probably all that will be available unless the Braves tank?

If the market is that weak to where the best available bat is a well below average offensive player then I guess you go out there with your best possible in-house options and pray that if the team does tank they tank hard so the soon-to-be free agents can be dealt at the deadline for young pieces.

 

Losing Jim Thome is basically a worst case scenario for this offense.

[Steve9347]

[Balta1701]

If the market is that weak to where the best available bat is a well below average offensive player then I guess you go out there with your best possible in-house options and pray that if the team does tank they tank hard so the soon-to-be free agents can be dealt at the deadline for young pieces.

 

Losing Jim Thome is basically a worst case scenario for this offense.

I think that's pretty much the point I was trying to make. If Thome is out for a long time, this team would almost certainly be done for the season. There just won't be enough offense available at a price we could afford to even come close to making up for that loss. So you cut your losses, dump the 2 big FA's, bring up the rookies, and try to come back next season healthy and reloaded.

[Steve9347]

To add some actual discussion to this, if Thome does hit the DL with a rather serious muscle pull I fully expect a move to be made, there are no position players in AAA with a .700 OPS right now so expecting any of them to come up and produce at even a mediocre rate is probably asking a bit much. Dye would probably be moved to the DH spot considering his age, defensive abilities and injury concerns (that's if he's healthy of course). That would make the outfield Ozuna - Erstad - Mackowiak, quite possibly the worst in baseball.

 

Considering an abdominal strain could linger throughout the year especially with Thome's violent swing a bat would probably need to be brought in to make up for the loss.

 

Dye to DH, Sweeney to RF.

 

I don't see Kenny making a move for a bat unless Thome is shelved for something like... 8 months.

[Milkman delivers]

With Thome being injured almost all of 2005, and the second half of 2006, it's pretty bad news for him to be hurt this early in 2007.

[witesoxfan]

Well, seeing as how there's a roster spot cleared right now, uhhhhhh, how about Eduardo Perez? Have him DH 50% of the time, including 100% of the time against lefties, and then have Mackowiak rotate between RF, LF, and DH with Dye playing RF and DH.

 

Just a suggestion