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His gun was in his checked bag, went into bathroom and loaded the gun and killed people at baggage claim. Nobody saw him in the bathroom loading the gun?

I won't assess blame, just express my sadness at the deaths and injuries and I'm happy the guy got caught and will be in prison the rest of his life. Terror mongers who do these things at airports also relish the fact that their actions will add to fear at airports and add to the awful experience known as travel.

 

Sadness for those killed and their families. Very sad day.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:43 PM)
His gun was in his checked bag, went into bathroom and loaded the gun and killed people at baggage claim. Nobody saw him in the bathroom loading the gun?

I won't assess blame, just express my sadness at the deaths and injuries and I'm happy the guy got caught and will be in prison the rest of his life. Terror mongers who do these things at airports also relish the fact that their actions will add to fear at airports and add to the awful experience known as travel.

 

Sadness for those killed and their families. Very sad day.

 

The man was hearing voices. He thought he was being recruited by the US into ISIS. He went to the FBI office in Anchorage telling them this and they admitted him into a hospital for FOUR DAYS. You think that's enough time to help someone who was hearing voices and obviously was mentally unstable? Oh, by the way, he served our country in Iraq.

 

What he did was horrible. What wasn't done for him was just as bad because it could have saved those lives. As Tex said, it's time to address the mental health crisis.

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QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:17 PM)
The man was hearing voices. He thought he was being recruited by the US into ISIS. He went to the FBI office in Anchorage telling them this and they admitted him into a hospital for FOUR DAYS. You think that's enough time to help someone who was hearing voices and obviously was mentally unstable? Oh, by the way, he served our country in Iraq.

 

What he did was horrible. What wasn't done for him was just as bad because it could have saved those lives. As Tex said, it's time to address the mental health crisis.

 

And yet he was still legally permitted to own a gun.

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QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 06:17 PM)
The man was hearing voices. He thought he was being recruited by the US into ISIS. He went to the FBI office in Anchorage telling them this and they admitted him into a hospital for FOUR DAYS. You think that's enough time to help someone who was hearing voices and obviously was mentally unstable? Oh, by the way, he served our country in Iraq.

 

What he did was horrible. What wasn't done for him was just as bad because it could have saved those lives. As Tex said, it's time to address the mental health crisis.

Oh I know it. The mental health crisis is really bad. I saw it in one of my relatives in Chicago over Xmas. Millions of Americans are losing it daily, freaking out, crying uncontrollably at the smallest things. I know mental illness is really really bad in the USA today. I'm not sure what we are gonna do about it. I just know we are in trouble, especially with weapons readily available.

You are right, this guy was hearing voices. Can you imagine how many millions of people are just as sick, if that's the right word? The illness is not going away. It will only get worse.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 11:38 AM)
We have serious mental health issues in this country and who knows how that should be addressed. The fact that our government isn't taking care of our returned vets is an absolute joke and there are plenty of viable solutions there. IE, I don't fault the government for not coming up with a solution for the issue as a whole but pertaining to the vets it's absolute bulls***.

 

Yet, still no one in politics cares, and the general public yawns.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 12:28 PM)
Yet, still no one in politics cares, and the general public yawns.

 

Slightly more than 50% of the US population cared. The obvious hope of something like Obamacare is that at the end of the day everyone would get affordable access to healthcare. Unfortunately, slightly less than 50% of the population does not care about the health of others.

 

The reality is that there seems to be plenty of money that could be given to veterans, just one party has consistently blocked any effort to provide further aid.

 

In 2015, VETERANS AFFAIRS FUNDING BILL (2015), 1.4 bil was removed from Obama's budget that would have gone to veteran services. In 2014, WOMEN VETERANS AND FAMILIES HEALTH SERVICES ACT (2014), was killed because Republican's did not want Planned Parenthood to provide any of the services. 2014, VETERANS HEALTH AND BENEFITS AND MILITARY RETIREMENT PAY RESTORATION ACT (2014), was amended to include sanctions on Iran, was ultimately defeated with 41 out of 45 Republican senators voting against it. In 2012, VETERANS JOBS CORPS ACT (2012), was blocked by Senate Republicans. In 2012, HOMELESS WOMEN VETERANS AND HOMELESS VETERANS WITH CHILDREN ACT (2010), was blocked by Senator Mitch McConnell.

 

In many of those instances McConnell was instrumental in blocking any additional aid being given to veterans.

 

But dont worry, hell find money to pay for a wall, to build 80 more ships.

 

So dont say "no one cares", be honest, "Republican's haven't cared."

 

Again, I know this post is pointless, because facts have no place in American society anymore. So I will just stand with my hands in the air asking questions like "Why doenst anybody care?", "Why cant anything be done to help veterans?"

 

Even though the answer is pretty apparent, stop voting for Republicans who have shown a complete disregard for our veterans.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 03:48 PM)
Slightly more than 50% of the US population cared. The obvious hope of something like Obamacare is that at the end of the day everyone would get affordable access to healthcare. Unfortunately, slightly less than 50% of the population does not care about the health of others.

 

The reality is that there seems to be plenty of money that could be given to veterans, just one party has consistently blocked any effort to provide further aid.

 

In 2015, VETERANS AFFAIRS FUNDING BILL (2015), 1.4 bil was removed from Obama's budget that would have gone to veteran services. In 2014, WOMEN VETERANS AND FAMILIES HEALTH SERVICES ACT (2014), was killed because Republican's did not want Planned Parenthood to provide any of the services. 2014, VETERANS HEALTH AND BENEFITS AND MILITARY RETIREMENT PAY RESTORATION ACT (2014), was amended to include sanctions on Iran, was ultimately defeated with 41 out of 45 Republican senators voting against it. In 2012, VETERANS JOBS CORPS ACT (2012), was blocked by Senate Republicans. In 2012, HOMELESS WOMEN VETERANS AND HOMELESS VETERANS WITH CHILDREN ACT (2010), was blocked by Senator Mitch McConnell.

 

In many of those instances McConnell was instrumental in blocking any additional aid being given to veterans.

 

But dont worry, hell find money to pay for a wall, to build 80 more ships.

 

So dont say "no one cares", be honest, "Republican's haven't cared."

 

Again, I know this post is pointless, because facts have no place in American society anymore. So I will just stand with my hands in the air asking questions like "Why doenst anybody care?", "Why cant anything be done to help veterans?"

 

Even though the answer is pretty apparent, stop voting for Republicans who have shown a complete disregard for our veterans.

Oh FFS. So the Republicans vetoed a bill that had funding for veterans in it because it had something they didn't like. You act as if that has never happened in the history of the f***ing planet by Democrats. it happens all the damn time by both sides. Throw something you know the other side hates into a bill that would be difficult for them to vote against. Get off your damn high horse. if Democrats cared as much as you think Republicans didn't, the f***ing VA wouldn't be such a cesspool of ineptitude and labor bulls*** that keeps screwups hired while allowing veterans to die. That is on the Obama admin. (hint, he isn't a Republican)

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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 04:44 PM)
Oh FFS. So the Republicans vetoed a bill that had funding for veterans in it because it had something they didn't like. You act as if that has never happened in the history of the f***ing planet by Democrats. it happens all the damn time by both sides. Throw something you know the other side hates into a bill that would be difficult for them to vote against. Get off your damn high horse. if Democrats cared as much as you think Republicans didn't, the f***ing VA wouldn't be such a cesspool of ineptitude and labor bulls*** that keeps screwups hired while allowing veterans to die. That is on the Obama admin. (hint, he isn't a Republican)

 

Translation:

 

Damn facts, I must find a way to try and completely make up a new fact pattern. I know, I will bring up times when someone else did something that may or may not be related and then I will say "It happens all the time", instead of actually addressing the facts. Then I will completely change the subject and make some entirely unrelated claims that have nothing to do with funding.

 

/end translation

 

Good to see that even when the Republican's are in charge their supporters wont hold them accountable.

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