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post Apr 20, 2017 -> 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 20, 2017 -> 03:09 PM) *
I'm torn between logically agreeing with you but also being equally as nervous as shipps about actually trying to develop a hitter like Adell.

I totally agree. It's a really tough call. They need to be sure it's the right guy AND they can develop him. I don't think the MiLB instructors have changed enough to give me that confidence but in theory they need to do it.
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post Apr 21, 2017 -> 01:27 AM
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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 20, 2017 -> 11:44 AM) *
Can we please stay away from "Significant swing and miss issues"


I agree. Toolsy OF that is raw at the plate sounds a little too familiar:). Swing and miss in the pro game is not terrible as long you have big power but if someone has swing and miss issues at the HS level I'm a bit alarmed because typically even the high K guys in the majors have been good contact hitters at the HS level.

maybe it is not his hand eye coordination but a swing issue but I'm not confident in the sox system fixing swing issues either. I would hope they take a rather polished hitter, either college or the rare HS player that already has a good swing and approach.
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post Apr 21, 2017 -> 01:47 AM
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QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 20, 2017 -> 01:34 PM) *
True. But eventually the Sox will need this type of player. Since they take longer to develop, if they have a shot at one they really like they should do it. They can't go so conservative that they miss out on a really good player just because they've picked the wrong ones in the past.
This is why they get paid the big bucks.


I'm actually more confident of a good contact, good plate discipline guy developing some power than a hacker becoming a good hitter. of course you have to have some power, a billy hamilton is never going to hit for power but in the last 3-4 years there have been many 10 or so HR guys becoming 20 HR guys by hitting the ball at a higher launch angle and pulling it a bit more. guys like turner, murphy or altuve all were 10 HR guys that tapped into more power by elevating the ball more.

not everyone can make that swing adjustment but good barrel control guys probably have a better chance to make that adjustment. the league is full of power right now, more than 100 guys hit 20 last year and like 35 or so hit 30. as long you are able to hit the ball in the air at 95+ with some consistency you can hit some homers.

guys like benintendi or bregman are good examples of this. they are good hitters with a bit but not really big power but they are projected to hit 20+ bombs in their prime because they can hit the ball at a good angle. they won't be real power hitters who hit 35 but being .370/460 guys with 20 HR is valuable.

however you have to be able to play defense. I think it is good to get good plate discipline guys who can hit but getting 5 DH types does not help. first basemen are cheap in the market, the key is to find players who can at least adequately play an up the middle positions. all the young superstars today can hit but are also solid up the middle defenders (trout, lindor, correa) or at least defensively strong 3B men who can play other positions well too (bryant, machado).

teams are built up the middle, if you have a good C, 2B, SS, CF, 3B and maybe a couple more prospects that are up the middle types but switch to the corners you can still find a 1B and a DH somewhere at a reasonable price.
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post Apr 21, 2017 -> 01:52 AM
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QUOTE (turnin' two @ Apr 20, 2017 -> 04:50 PM) *
I think you would be hard pressed to find a sky-high ceiling HS hitter that didn't have some swing and miss concerns they are few and far between. There is certainly risk in a guy like Adell, but those risky HS players are also a teams best chance to get a superstar talent (other than signing a young Cuban defector). You can't draft Mike Trout or Clayton Kershaw if you don't draft those high risk HS players. The team has some risk assessment they need to conduct on players like Adell. Though, if they do sign Robert, that would allow them to play it a little safer with a guy like Haseley, or having two guys like that (Robert and Adell) kind of acts as a little bit of a hedge against the Jared Mitchell risk (gosh he was the worst. A high risk college bat? Yikes. Trout being taken 2 picks later in that draft is really a kick in the head).


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Wow, looking back on that draft, after Strasburg, it was really a disaster. No one else in the top 15 picks really became impact players (Sorry Mike Leake!)


but the second half of the first round was really good:)

AJ pollock
Randell Grichuk
Mike trout
James Paxton
Garrett Richards
shelby miller
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post Apr 21, 2017 -> 10:51 AM
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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 20, 2017 -> 11:42 AM) *
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-...UMGkKBkxSZIR.97

They have the Sox taking Louisville Prep OF Jordon Adell. Loaded with tools. Significant swing and miss issues though.

11. White Sox

The White Sox would snap up Gore if he fell this far, but that’s unlikely. An infusion of pitching talent in offseason trades gives the Sox the flexibility to go back to one of their favored phyla of talent, toolsy prep outfielders such as Louisville prep toolshed Jordan Adell.

Pick: Jordon Adell, of, Ballard HS, Louisville |


I mentioned McKenzie Gore here a few weeks ago. He is basically unhittable this year. He is a lefty who throws low 90s and has great control too. Signed with ECU where I have season tix so selfishly would love for him to go to ECU but it looks very doubtful. He is said to be asking a high number and Boras is his advisor I hear. Asking for a high number, I have heard 4 million.
He would be a great get even though we need position players.

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post Apr 21, 2017 -> 11:20 AM
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Trying to find video of Adam Haseley
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