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The reasoning (in comments):

Not a good corner OFer who doesn't walk much and strikes out too much.

 

His k rate isn't particularly high (19.5%).

 

Anyway, it's nothing to get too mad about. Not shocked that it likes hansen / kopech so much.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 10:27 AM)
KATOH is WAY too stat heavy.

In fact it is 100% statistical. This is why I have never given it much consideration, as using stats alone to evaluate minor leagues just does not get you anything of value. As part of the picture, sure, stats can be used. But to lean totally on them is asking to be very wrong, very often.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 12:30 PM)
In fact it is 100% statistical. This is why I have never given it much consideration, as using stats alone to evaluate minor leagues just does not get you anything of value. As part of the picture, sure, stats can be used. But to lean totally on them is asking to be very wrong, very often.

 

About all I like out of it is to see guys I hadn't really noticed before.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 12:41 PM)
About all I like out of it is to see guys I hadn't really noticed before.

I think that's the point of it though, Mitchell regularly writes articles about prospects that are often overlooked but that the stats say might be worth something. Every season KATOH correctly finds several of these guys and that's why I enjoy it.

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 12:30 PM)
In fact it is 100% statistical. This is why I have never given it much consideration, as using stats alone to evaluate minor leagues just does not get you anything of value. As part of the picture, sure, stats can be used. But to lean totally on them is asking to be very wrong, very often.

 

If it is 100% statistical, how is Eloy so low?

 

His stats were quite good, some might even say the bessss

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QUOTE (joejoedairy @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 02:18 PM)
If it is 100% statistical, how is Eloy so low?

 

His stats were quite good, some might even say the bessss

 

He doesn't walk that much, he isn't a low strikeout guy, and you'll notice that many of the players on the list are CF'ers, Catchers and SS. He gets docked for defense a lot in these WAR stuff.

 

He said he's a young guy with a lot of power and that's it. But I bet in KATOH+ he'll do much better because he has a pretty good hit tool grade from longenhagen.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 10:27 AM)
The reasoning (in comments):

Not a good corner OFer who doesn't walk much and strikes out too much.

 

His k rate isn't particularly high (19.5%).

 

Anyway, it's nothing to get too mad about. Not shocked that it likes hansen / kopech so much.

Also, Eloy didn't have great numbers with the Cubs' A ball team so stat wise it makes sense.

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QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 03:16 PM)
For all the talk about the Sox changing their draft philosophy, it's interesting that the top prospects they've acquired via trade have been players with better tools profiles rather than statistical ones.

 

That is why they got him.if you trade sale or Q you get performance and tools but many of the other guys were high tools guys with performance issues that they bought low on. They could have also gotten undertooled high performers but they chose to go for the potential. The system already was very good so they can take some high variance guys with upside.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 02:58 PM)
He doesn't walk that much, he isn't a low strikeout guy, and you'll notice that many of the players on the list are CF'ers, Catchers and SS. He gets docked for defense a lot in these WAR stuff.

 

He said he's a young guy with a lot of power and that's it. But I bet in KATOH+ he'll do much better because he has a pretty good hit tool grade from longenhagen.

 

Eloy played all of 2017 at age 20, so he still has time to work on drawing more walks. The talent is there to be a beast at the plate.

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