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QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 04:07 PM) Definitely was not intended as a personal attack, was trying to be funny. Jb shuck is a AAAA player at best and exactly the kind of player that has no business taking the opportunity away from a younger, more talented player. Don't take so much offense man. We're all good I apologize, steve. Sorry for calling you a jagbag I realize it wasn't intended to be a personal attack against me. Our OF if Melky stays is what - Melky LF/Tilson CF/Avi RF/Liriano 4th with Coats/Engel/May as depth? Yeah...good chance we win 60 games or so unless everybody performs and Giolito/Lopez/Moncada all come up early and contribute big time.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Come on dude, if you didn't give a f*** you wouldn't have said anything in the first place. You like Shuck and you're not wrong for it but those that do not like Shuck aren't wrong either. It's a message board where people are free to express their opinion's. No. To be honest, yes I was being defensive. No, I was not being defensive for J.B. freaking Shuck. I was being defensive because I originally thought that steve was trying to come at me for sharing said information.

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) Like this? Says the new guy who is furthering my point. "This".. "like this?"

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) You're expecting people to care about a player who has no business being on the roster in the first place. No. I don't give a f*** if anyone cares, to be completely honest. What I do give a f*** about is every time I sign on I see negativity/sarcasm rather than posters contributing anything of substance in threads - instead basically posting "ah who gives a s***, guy blows" or "what a loss". If you don't care, don't post.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) Good riddance to shuck. Was joking, didn't know he ment that much to you You weren't 'joking', you were being a sarcastic jagbag that didn't contribute anything to the thread. Yeah he means the world to me. I got 3 Shuck jer-tees, an autographed picture with me and him, and a Shuck White Sox signed jersey in my man cave. I was just throwing some White Sox news out there, ya know, considering he was on the MLB roster parts of the past 2 seasons.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 10:58 AM) Huge loss. What a blow. If you're gonna be a sarcastic jagbag, why even bother to comment?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/twin...p;post-id=80796

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 11:07 AM) Not that I'm saying Danks was good post injury, but on what planet is a 3 fWAR or even a 1.7 fWAR season bad? I never said 3 WAR is bad. Obviously a 3.0 is pretty good. I used 2011 as part of it to show where he was at pre-injury. He got hurt in 2012, right? A 1.7 is not special. If you pitch near 200 innings with an under 5 ERA, you should get a 1.7 WAR as an SP. Add in those 4 other years of dogs*** performance and that's where John Danks was consistently trash since the surgery. The guy has averaged 0.5 WAR anually since 2012, including an otherworldly 1.7 WAR in 2015.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 07:23 AM) 2015 ERAs with Sox Jeff Samardzija: 4.96 John Danks: 4.71 I award one point to greg Because one bad year vs 6 bad years using one stat is a wonderful argument. 2015 fWAR: Samardzija: 2.6 Danks: 1.7 Danks career fWAR year by year: 2011: 3.0 2012: 0.3 2013: 0.2 2014: 0.5 2015: 1.7 2016: -0.1 No points for greg. It's an all-around s***y argument.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 07:56 PM) Danks never should have been DFA'ed. He was NOT our worst pitcher. If he's not hurt, he's definitely young enough to make a comeback especially if he becomes more of a crafty lefty. I LOVE John Danks and think he got the shaft with the Sox. Shields couldn't even last 3 innings without getting lit up. Danks was not even that bad. He should have been moved to long relief til he got his act together. Our bullpen has been horrific the last several years and he coulda joined that bullpen. ??? Were we watching the same player? Danks has been BAD for 6 straight years dude. As mentioned, ever since the injury he's been atrocious. Don't get me wrong, I hated the Shields trade and he is clearly on the downside of his career - but come on, you'd rather have Danks if money isn't a factor? Sure, Shields has been terrible the past 2 years, but he was an elite inning-eater SP previous to that for the majority of his career. Danks had one great year + 2 solid years in his career before gettting hurt. He tried to become a "crafty lefty" and f***ing couldn't to save his life. If he wasn't signed long term with JR being cheap he would have been DFAd in 2014. I loved John Danks the human just as you clearly did/do, but get your head out of your ass. He was consistently the worst pitcher I've seen in a White Sox uniform since 2011, maybe ever. Danks 2011-2016: 756 IP/ 4.79 ERA / 4.60 FIP / 85 ERA+ (15% below league average pitcher) / 818 H / 1.4 WHIP

This s*** is getting ridiculous. It's like 1/3rd of Sox fans want to be an under .500 team for the next 15 years. THEY'RE REBUILDING. Get over it already and stop making these threads and posts already. Read the damn GM and owner's comments the past 2 weeks.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 14, 2016 -> 03:14 PM) That's not necessarily how I remember it. Jon Gray was looked at as the first pick for a long while and Bryant was considered the safest player in the draft. I think if you change the first three picking teams that year you'd see a variety of outcomes. In essence, that draft was more of a preference thing rather than a slam dunk Bryce Harper type 1-1. I know I preferred both Gray and Bryant to Appel just because of the disparity in upside. Re-read my post as well as the post I was replying to raBBit You basically said the same thing I said except a different way. I said Appel WASN'T a slam dunk to go 1:1 (whereas Strasburg and Harper we're slam dunk 1:1 types).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) If they lost all the games, they might have wound up with Mark Appel instead of Kris Bryant. It goes both ways. Not really. Appel wasn't a slam dunk 1st overall pick in the mold of Strasburg or Harper - as recent examples. When you don't have that slam dunk 1:1 guy, it comes down to scouting and making the right choice. All indications from the outside were that the Cubs would take Gray or Appel over Bryant because they "needed pitchers". The Cubs chose the player they thought would be the most impactful in Bryant over Jon Gray. They picked right. I'm willing to bet they would have stuck to their guns and chose KB 1:1 if they had that 1st pick - just like they picked Schwarber 4th overall, about 10 picks before his projections.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 14, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) I promise you... the dawn is coming. Hahahaha yup.

Yes, I hope they lose 100 games in 2017 at the very least and wouldn't be disappointed to see the same thing happen in 2018 - although I doubt it will. The way I see it, it's part of the process when you're doing a total teardown/rebuild. What is the point of a rebuilding team having a middle of the pack pick in the draft? There is none. The darkness for a few years will bring bright light to the Southside.