zisk Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 It looks like Todd and Melky are getting heated up at the right time. Odds of either being moved soon? What type of return to expect and will their departure help the "tank for Beer" quest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I think we'll be positively surprised by the Frazier return. It won't be headlined by a current top 100 prospect type, but either a prospect in the back half of an org's top 10 or a guy who was previously well regarded but has fall out of favor. I think we'll also get a lottery ticket too. Melky will not return much. I think even just salary relief would be a win with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 08:37 AM) I think we'll be positively surprised by the Frazier return. It won't be headlined by a current top 100 prospect type, but either a prospect in the back half of an org's top 10 or a guy who was previously well regarded but has fall out of favor. I think we'll also get a lottery ticket too. Melky will not return much. I think even just salary relief would be a win with him. Frazier quietly has the 12th best overall WAR of any mlb starting third baseman at 1.7. He's striking out less and drawing more walks than before, and has put up his best numbers since June 1st. We have to hope that he has helped his value due to good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Don't see either bringing back much but any team can do worse than Melky at LF or DH. I hope the Sox are willing to eat cash if that's what it takes. Considering we are half way through the season, neither is really owed much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soha Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I doubt either will bring much back at all. Maybe shoot for a lottery ticket youngster and hope he pans out? The Beer run will probably be enhanced more by moving bullpen pieces. Those guys have saved so many games from going the other way this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 If the Sox are willing to eat a few million on Melky, he should be a pretty intriguing option for several teams. The guy can just flat out hit. You can much worse at DH / occasional OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 08:54 AM) Frazier quietly has the 12th best overall WAR of any mlb starting third baseman at 1.7. He's striking out less and drawing more walks than before, and has put up his best numbers since June 1st. We have to hope that he has helped his value due to good performance. I 100% agree and his numbers are still negatively impacted by a low BABIP and not having a real spring training. Frazier is actually a pretty good player still, just can be frustrating to watch at times. I think if Moustakas is off the market, Frazier should net a decent return. And Boston is my predicted landing spot. Edited July 5, 2017 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (zisk @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 08:13 AM) It looks like Todd and Melky are getting heated up at the right time. Odds of either being moved soon? What type of return to expect and will their departure help the "tank for Beer" quest? Both will be gone by August 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 09:55 AM) Both will be gone by August 1st. Hopefully. Edit: it is now hitting me that that is only 27 days from now. Where has time gone? Edited July 5, 2017 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:00 AM) Hopefully. Edit: it is now hitting me that that is only 27 days from now. Where has time gone? There is literally no reason for any player who will be a free agent after this season to stay here. Even if it is just salary relief, there is zero reason for them to be kept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 09:37 AM) I 100% agree and his numbers are still negatively impacted by a low BABIP and not having a real spring training. Frazier is actually a pretty good player still, just can be frustrating to watch at times. I think if Moustakas is off the market, Frazier should net a decent return. And Boston is my predicted landing spot. Disagree. Boston really likes their rookie Lin at third. Solid minor league history of hitting, and he has done really well since call up. They should stick with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Melky has been a guy that I have been thinking about since last season in-terms of a trade. Upped his average to .291 as of late. I think a team like Milwaukee or St. Louis would really benefit from adding Melky. Edited July 5, 2017 by KnightsOnMintSt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (zisk @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 08:13 AM) It looks like Todd and Melky are getting heated up at the right time. Odds of either being moved soon? What type of return to expect and will their departure help the "tank for Beer" quest? What have you heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) What have you heard? Huh? I don't think he is implying he heard anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) Huh? I don't think he is implying he heard anything. So are you saying you heard something different??? Hmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:16 AM) So are you saying you heard something different??? Hmmmmmm That's not what I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Based on our minor league position player talent being a couple years away I would strongly consider resigning both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Based on our minor league position player talent being a couple years away I would strongly consider resigning both We have guys who can cover LF and 3B next year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Based on our minor league position player talent being a couple years away I would strongly consider resigning both First off, Melky is not a valuable player. I'm a huge fan of the guy's personality, but he doesn't the play the field at an acceptable level anymore. And it's only going to get worse as he ages. Second, we have multiple in-house replacements for both guys ready to go. Once Moncada is called up, we can choose from Davidson, Sanchez, & Delmoncio at 3B. For LF we can choose from Engel (or Leury), Willy, & Demonico. Why on earth would you want to block these guys with aging veterans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Based on our minor league position player talent being a couple years away I would strongly consider resigning both Only reason you would want to bring them back is if you think they will be around for the next playoff team. We're still in a rebuild, no reason to bring them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Based on our minor league position player talent being a couple years away I would strongly consider resigning both Teal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Based on our minor league position player talent being a couple years away I would strongly consider resigning both Huh? We are not going to be a competitive team, why resign aging veterans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 08:55 AM) Both will be gone by August 1st. Agree. Take whatever you can get for them. They aren't re-signing so anything is better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 11:15 AM) Teal? elrockin has a hard time letting go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) Based on our minor league position player talent being a couple years away I would strongly consider resigning both Greg? And bringing back Guillen, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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