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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:44 AM)
Team is not nearly bad enough to get into the Beer mix as it stands today.

 

 

It's about a 70 win team. Once Q and Frazier go, you are looking at 65 win territory. I expect other guys to move as season goes along. San Diego will be awful but Sox should be right in that top 5 mix. Seth Beer has 2 seasons still before he can even be drafted. People are going a little overboard. We have the 2017 draft, international period, trade deadline, and offseason before we even get to worry about Seth Beer. It's a bit ridiculous. You're also overrating current roster. This is a bad team that won't be able to score runs.

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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 07:48 AM)
It's about a 70 win team. Once Q and Frazier go, you are looking at 65 win territory. I expect other guys to move as season goes along. San Diego will be awful but Sox should be right in that top 5 mix. Seth Beer has 2 seasons still before he can even be drafted. People are going a little overboard. We have the 2017 draft, international period, trade deadline, and offseason before we even get to worry about Seth Beer. It's a bit ridiculous. You're also overrating current roster. This is a bad team that won't be able to score runs.

Sure, if we move Quitana & Frazier we might have a shot at challenging the Padres, but it doesn't seem likely we'll move Todd before the season. I think you're underestimating how bad the Padres will actually be next year.

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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:03 AM)
Sure, if we move Quitana & Frazier we might have a shot at challenging the Padres, but it doesn't seem likely we'll move Todd before the season. I think you're underestimating how bad the Padres will actually be next year.

 

 

Sox are a bottom 5 team with Frazier IMO. Quintana is going. If he doesn't, this team traded their 2 best players and will continue to purge.

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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:03 AM)
Sure, if we move Quitana & Frazier we might have a shot at challenging the Padres, but it doesn't seem likely we'll move Todd before the season. I think you're underestimating how bad the Padres will actually be next year.

 

I agree

 

That Padres rotation is beyond awful. That team is going to get run train on by the MLB.

 

I would go so far as to say our AAA rotation is significantly better than their mlb rotation.

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QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:26 AM)
I agree

 

That Padres rotation is beyond awful. That team is going to get run train on by the MLB.

 

I would go so far as to say our AAA rotation is significantly better than their mlb rotation.

 

Seriously. They are probably looking at a 50-112 record. Over/under I'm putting at 52.5 wins.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:08 AM)
This only happens because Carlos Rodon was otherworldly as a sophomore and couldn't possibly live up to the expectations place on him. Sox were lucky to pick third that year. Damn lucky Miami was picking 2nd too.

 

It's nice to pick #1 of course, but obviously. a lot can happen obviously. What's cool is the year the Sox should have their highest pick for a long time there (perhaps other than 2014) is such a big prospect in Beer up there.

 

 

Aren't there multiple guys worthy in the 2018 draft? It's a good year to suck, right?

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:11 AM)
Something working on favor of the Sox for Beer I'd that they play in the AL, whereas all of the other tankers are in the NL.

 

Right. In spring training of last year we would have laughed that there was no way the reds/phillies/braves would not be in the top three, and lo and behold the 84 win twins ended up with the #1 pick.

 

It's hard to tell me after watching the last two years and not improving at all that this team without eaton and sale is actually still a 70 win team.

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Fangraphs currently has the White Sox projected at third worst, 1.3 WAR ahead of the Brewers and 2.3 WAR ahead of the Padres. Trading Q and Frazier would easily put us as the worst, though I would probably agree with others that the Padres projection might be too rosy, they're going to be really bad. The hope is that the NL is bad enough that the Padres will pick up a few extra wins, while the AL is tough enough that we'll pick up a few extra losses.

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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:44 AM)
Team is not nearly bad enough to get into the Beer mix as it stands today.

 

This.

 

At this point I have no idea if we're going to have Q or not, but this team with Q and a likely addition at DH and maybe even an Austin Jackson isn't THAT bad of a baseball team. This fan will be rooting for wins to start the year.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:31 AM)
I remember the halcyon days of late 2013 when it became clear the White Sox would get the #3 pick and not the #1 pick and how badly they screwed up by costing themselves the chance at the clear #1 pick, Carlos Rodon.

 

Not to mention the extra $2.2 million they got to spend to draft and sign some outliers.

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Without Q, we are looking at a rotation of:

Rodon

Shields

Gonzalez (maybe he can get flipped mid-season)

Holland

One of Covey, Beck, or other

 

Starting lineup would be:

C Narvaez, Soto

1B Abreu (could be traded but seems unlikely)

2B Lawrie, Moncada second half unless he is doing terrible at AAA

3B Frazier (could be traded mid-season)

SS Anderson

LF Melky (could be traded mid-season)

CF Tilson, Liriano

RF Garcia, Liriano

DH Davidson? Garcia or probably more likely a late MLB signing (Carter, Lind, Alvarez)

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