NorthSideSox72 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 There's been some talk about Adam Engel. Nathaniel Stoltz of Fangraphs did this piece today, going into some detail, including video. His profile is seemingly an exact match with a White Sox player from a few decades ago - Gary Redus. Plus athlete, plus-plus speed, a little pop, poor contact and hit tool, pull tendency and over-swing tendency, excellent defensive range, strong arm. What are people's thoughts? In some ways he's similar to a guy like Keenyn Walker, but I think Engel has more pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 10:15 AM) There's been some talk about Adam Engel. Nathaniel Stoltz of Fangraphs did this piece today, going into some detail, including video. His profile is seemingly an exact match with a White Sox player from a few decades ago - Gary Redus. Plus athlete, plus-plus speed, a little pop, poor contact and hit tool, pull tendency and over-swing tendency, excellent defensive range, strong arm. What are people's thoughts? In some ways he's similar to a guy like Keenyn Walker, but I think Engel has more pop. I like Engela whole lot more than Walker, Walker was a bust in my opinion, not even prospective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 09:22 AM) I like Engela whole lot more than Walker, Walker was a bust in my opinion, not even prospective At this point, sure. But Walker did much better in Kanny in his first year there than Engel is doing now - that is the way to compare results. Of course results are not the same as tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) At this point, sure. But Walker did much better in Kanny in his first year there than Engel is doing now - that is the way to compare results. Of course results are not the same as tools. Wasn't a fan of Walker since the draft, but I probably viewed him with too high of expectations considering he was our 1st pick in the late 40s, hate the idea of an early picked JUCO kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 03:31 PM) Wasn't a fan of Walker since the draft, but I probably viewed him with too high of expectations considering he was our 1st pick in the late 40s, hate the idea of an early picked JUCO kid Tim Anderson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 10:43 AM) Tim Anderson? Wasn't a fan of his selection either at the time but he's great offensively, will probably have to move to OF though, maybe 2B but we're crowded there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Unfortunately, toolsy athletic prospects with hit tool/contact issues are precisely the type that have never been properly developed in the BBell and prior eras. I wonder if RH is even able to make the needed changes in the development side of the org for fear of upsetting JR's family atmosphere. Personally, I'd back up the truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Unfortunately, toolsy athletic prospects with hit tool/contact issues are precisely the type that have never been properly developed in the BBell and prior eras. I wonder if RH is even able to make the needed changes in the development side of the org for fear of upsetting JR's family atmosphere. Personally, I'd back up the truck. Or maybe the Sox draft too many players with contact issues, and overvalue their speed and power coming out of school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 The White Sox have been really looking at extreme tool guys. A lot of guys they brought in are 70/80 speed, or 70/80 power projections. It will be interesting to see what happens with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Need to start selling teams on Engel being the next Mike Trout and reference Fangraphs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 09:18 AM) Or maybe the Sox draft too many players with contact issues, and overvalue their speed and power coming out of school. A little from Column A, a little... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I like the Carlos Gomez comp for Engel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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