Kyyle23 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Avila takes the job from him. Not confirmed if he resigned or was released yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Released to pursue other options per Jason Stark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 12m12 minutes ago Dave Dombrowski will now be rumored everywhere from #RedSox to #BlueJays to #Angels to #Mariners. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 14m14 minutes ago My column on Dombrowski' status and Chris Ilitch's rising influence in organization from last month: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/detroit...-manager-071015 … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Wouldn't mind the White Sox giving him a call. HAHAHAHAHAHA, that's not gonna happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 He is a great baseball guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/477...dave-dombrowski Reinsdorf should already be on the phone - this guy is one of the best in baseball, and he was roland Hemond's protege many year ago, before Hawk talked his way into the GM job. Dombrowski's credentials are the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (bear_brian @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/477...dave-dombrowski Reinsdorf should already be on the phone - this guy is one of the best in baseball, and he was roland Hemond's protege many year ago, before Hawk talked his way into the GM job. Dombrowski's credentials are the best. I dunno man. How good would he be without Daddy Warbux giving him tons of money to spend? Sure you can point to a few trades he won but Kenny/Rick have won their share of trades too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dombrowski might have given out some bad contracts, but he is a fantastic baseball guy, one of the absolute bests. That said, the White Sox don't usually get in the habit of bringing in high paying consultants and I presume that is all Dave would be at this time. Me, I'd look at bringing him as the CEO to let Kenny out to do his thing, however, I'm a realist and understand it won't happen. While people are going to say Red Sox, it seems like their successor is already set. Funny thing is, Larry Luchino is a fantastic CEO of a franchise as well and would make an upstanding hire if the Sox wanted to go that direction. Before people talk about what he did in Boston and say well he had a large market franchise, lets not forget his successes in Baltimore and San Diego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The guy's track record includes the Expos, Marlins and tigers. He is considered one of the best talent evaluators in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Was he actually fired or was this more for Dave to pursue other things? We also will never know how much certain signings were tied to Dombrowski thinking they were the right moves vs. Ilitch saying, its okay, I'd rather pay the extra premium knowing the potential downside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:39 PM) Was he actually fired or was this more for Dave to pursue other things? We also will never know how much certain signings were tied to Dombrowski thinking they were the right moves vs. Ilitch saying, its okay, I'd rather pay the extra premium knowing the potential downside. Sounds like Chris Illitch wanted him out to take over, and Dombrowski might have had something else lining up as well. My guess is that he knew the Illitch kid was running him out, so he started scouting out another job. I'd imagine he has something all but lined up already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Tigers are in even more trouble now that he is leaving, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 We screwed up years ago by allowing him to leave. Get him in here somehow - it would truly be a shame to miss out on him again. Consultant, CEO, boot Kenny (not going to happen, but one can dream ...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The only realistic way of hiring him would be if JR said, okay Dave, I need to bring you in here to help me evaluate what is going on with the club and if we are headed in the right direction (with an understanding that long-term Dave wants a more lucrative job so this is just a temporary thing for the rest of the season...a friend helping a friend). Can you come in and give me your opinion of the franchise, the direction, the people, and what you think. The downside of this, you might piss some people off and you might also get an inherently biased answer (cause Dave could be looking out for himself and want the job to begin with), but depending on what his goals are, you might get a pretty clear assessment as the owner of the franchise from an incredibly respected guy and knowledgeable guy. I always wish we did something similar with LaRussa (who knows, maybe Jerry has). Plus, lets be honest, Dombrowski should have a pretty good idea of our franchise anyway, given the rivalry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Hiring Dombrowski would be a smart move. Therefore, this organization will never do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 02:52 PM) The only realistic way of hiring him would be if JR said, okay Dave, I need to bring you in here to help me evaluate what is going on with the club and if we are headed in the right direction (with an understanding that long-term Dave wants a more lucrative job so this is just a temporary thing for the rest of the season...a friend helping a friend). Can you come in and give me your opinion of the franchise, the direction, the people, and what you think. The downside of this, you might piss some people off and you might also get an inherently biased answer (cause Dave could be looking out for himself and want the job to begin with), but depending on what his goals are, you might get a pretty clear assessment as the owner of the franchise from an incredibly respected guy and knowledgeable guy. I always wish we did something similar with LaRussa (who knows, maybe Jerry has). Plus, lets be honest, Dombrowski should have a pretty good idea of our franchise anyway, given the rivalry. You are absolutely right. there is almost no chance we could hire him without all kinds of repercussions. My thinking, however, is that THAT is really what the franchise needs - a real kick in the rear and a top shelf baseball man at the helm. the Bears did that with Jim finks, and that was the basis for the '85 champs. There are only a few top shelf guys - Friedman, Schurholz, St Louis whomever - we need that kind of person at the helm. Maybe Jerry is afraid of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Since Dombrowski was originally with the Sox, wouldn't hiring him be a loyalty move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) Since Dombrowski was originally with the Sox, wouldn't hiring him be a loyalty move? It is actually why, of all things, I could see the consultant angle possibly working. I still put those odds at so low because JR clearly thinks extremely highly of Ken Williams and I don't think he'd do that to Kenny. The other option would be Kenny and JR have already had the conversation relating to the Blue Jays and basically at the end of the season the Sox are going to let Kenny explore other interests and thus Dombrowski could come in without really ruffling all that many feathers (outside of potentially Hahn's). I don't think Kenny is here for much longer (and no I don't see Sox firing him, rather, I see Kenny leaving on his own accord). For those who say JR is afraid to hire good baseball people, I think that would be crazy. I think he knows the better baseball people their, the better the team, and in theory, the more profitable his franchise (not to mention he does like to win...just not at all costs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 09:58 PM) Since Dombrowski was originally with the Sox, wouldn't hiring him be a loyalty move? Sure but why? Rick Hahn is a good baseball man. Now if KW leaves maybe Rick or Dave D would move in somehow to handle that position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:58 PM) Since Dombrowski was originally with the Sox, wouldn't hiring him be a loyalty move? Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) Sure but why? Rick Hahn is a good baseball man. Now if KW leaves maybe Rick or Dave D would move in somehow to handle that position Comparing Rick Hahn to Dombrowski is like comparing Avi Garcia to Miggy Cabrera. In fact, you can look at the three-way Peavy deal and see us with Garcia and the Tigers with Iglesias and use that to contrast the two. I think Reinsdorf doesn't want someone who wants extended power, so it won't happen. Larry Himes brought Frank Thomas, Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura, Alex Fernandez, Wilson Alvarez to the Sox and was fired after a little over a year. Jerry wants someone he can pressure, and that would not be Dombrowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I just put on MLB Network and I see the topic on Intentional Talk. Wow, what a shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Is he a Sox fan? I know he's from Palos and still comes back to town, so chances are high that he is. Probably doesn'thelp much though. edit: oh he started with the sox. Didn't realize that. Edited August 4, 2015 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (bear_brian @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/477...dave-dombrowski Reinsdorf should already be on the phone - this guy is one of the best in baseball, and he was roland Hemond's protege many year ago, before Hawk talked his way into the GM job. Dombrowski's credentials are the best. Detroit firing this guy is flat out insane. And I agree, JR should already be talking to him about coming back on board this winter. When Hawk fired him, JR allowed him to stay on the Sox benefits package until he could find another position so the two parted well. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) I dunno man. How good would he be without Daddy Warbux giving him tons of money to spend? Sure you can point to a few trades he won but Kenny/Rick have won their share of trades too. Dave built and sustained the Montreal farm system which was considered among the best or the best in baseball for years. He's exactly what the Sox need to take over completely the minor league operations. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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