Whisox05 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/02/05/lev...rotation-depth/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Bruce Levine is a f***ing moron. How is this clown a "baseball insider" if he can't even spell half of the players names right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Make sense. They need rotation depth. This is the 2nd year of Williams' artificial/phony 3 year (now 2 year) "go for it" window, where the young players are dispatched for proven and declining veterans....and the team still has numerous holes. And it still remains to be seen if the Sox are a team, despite a few of the holes plugged. Edited February 6, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Feb 5, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) Make sense. They need rotation depth. This is the 2nd year of Williams' artificial/phony 3 year (now 2 year) "go for it" window, where the young players are dispatched for proven and declining veterans....and the team still has numerous holes. And it still remains to be seen if the Sox are a team, despite a few of the holes plugged. I'm not sure if the 3 year window is phony. Sadly if the Sox aren't in the playoffs here on out it might be firesale/ rebuild time for the sox. Sox most likely can't afford sale after this contract comes up and probably not Abreu tho he will be older then. That leaves 2 years of control for the two after the window and should be still get alot of talent in return if it ends up being the case. Sox are having to go all in but at what cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 This is rather interesting speculation by Levine. The Sox are looking for another outfielder and Jennings fits the mold although he hits RH. Early in the off season the Sox were rumored to be shopping EJ so kicking the tires on Odorizzi wouldn't be surprising. Curious about what the Rays would want for Odorizzi/Jennings. I'm sure Fulmer would be the first name mentioned by the Rays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Feb 6, 2016 -> 06:31 AM) This is rather interesting speculation by Levine. The Sox are looking for another outfielder and Jennings fits the mold although he hits RH. Early in the off season the Sox were rumored to be shopping EJ so kicking the tires on Odorizzi wouldn't be surprising. Curious about what the Rays would want for Odorizzi/Jennings. I'm sure Fulmer would be the first name mentioned by the Rays. I bet the Rays would like Tyler Danish-a local kid from suburban Tampa [Plant City]. With Fulmer and Spencer Adams, a deal involving him could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'm not certain the Sox could acquire Odorizzi & Jennings without giving up Rodon. Which doesn't make much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Unless we trade EJ in a package for an OF bat I don't see how giving up assets for rotation depth makes any kind of sense. I could see signing a vet to a minimum/minor league deal but nothing further than that. Danks isn't going anywhere and then we have EJ, Turner, BecK, Carrol, and the possibility of Fulmer coming in July/August for the 5th spot. Could be at least worse. Offense and OF depth are way more of a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 It would be a downright incredible move to swing a trade for Jennings and Odorizzi, I wish the Sox had the firepower to get it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Levine keeps suggesting these mega Sox deals despite the fact they have nothing to get them done (assuming Anderson and Fulmer are untouchable). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Feb 6, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) It would be a downright incredible move to swing a trade for Jennings and Odorizzi, I wish the Sox had the firepower to get it done See this is the issue with the Sox is they don't have alot of money to spend but don't have the depth on the minors to get more pieces they need unless they just empty it out and have nothing left. Jennings to me is a guy that hasn't lived up to potential and has injury issues. Don't know how much hope we all have that Sox can actually turning him around when we have a guy already that isn't fully injured all the time but can't fix him. It's really a stuck between a rock and a hard place for the sox right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideDon48 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Come on, guys. Both Odorizzi and Jennings suck. They're both busts and I wouldn't want to trade anything of value for them. Theykre the type of players that you'd wait until they're free agents and try to sign to cheap contracts. This is gonna be another long losing season if we're gonna have guys like Saladino and Sanchez on the roster and if we're talking about trying to sign scrubs like Dexter Fowler, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I feel like Odorizzi would be a horrible pickup. He's a flyball pitcher and would cost a ton to get. Don't see a great fit for him here at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 My guess: Levine was looking at rosters and just learned who Odorizzi was, created article around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'm surprised the Sox haven't brought in someone for rotation depth yet. They've added Charlie Shirek this offseason. Make fun of the Penny signing all you want but at least he was a proven starter that made sense to keep stashed in Charlotte. If Beck and Turner are plans B and C if Johnson fails it's going to be a long year. Neither one of them has proven they can start at the MLB level. I don't even know who's still available that would be willing to take a minor league deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Feb 6, 2016 -> 12:28 PM) Come on, guys. Both Odorizzi and Jennings suck. They're both busts and I wouldn't want to trade anything of value for them. Theykre the type of players that you'd wait until they're free agents and try to sign to cheap contracts. No idea how Odorizzi fits with what you're saying. He'd be a very expensive free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Feb 6, 2016 -> 12:44 PM) I feel like Odorizzi would be a horrible pickup. He's a flyball pitcher and would cost a ton to get. Don't see a great fit for him here at all. You're right about Odorizzi being a FB pitcher but I think what the Sox are looking at is that he's less of a FB pitcher than Johnson and would be an upgrade over Johnson. Odorizzi's repertoire of FB, CU, CT, SL could be a really good match with Cooper as his pitching coach. That said, the reality is that there's likely no match since the Rays would target prospects the Sox wouldn't want to part with. Still an interesting topic for discussion while we wait to see what the next move might or hopefully be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/...shane-victorino Shane Victorino to hit against lefties...just because our sights keep getting set lower. Supposedly he's in very good shape, of course his agent wouldn't lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 6, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) Levine keeps suggesting these mega Sox deals despite the fact they have nothing to get them done (assuming Anderson and Fulmer are untouchable). They do if they move some regulars . Which I've thought would happen eventually . Hahn have to be working within some kind of very tight budget or constraint. Maybe Caulfield was right for bringing up signings in June. I laughed every time I saw him mention it because its a terrible plan for a player. If the Sox are intent on still getting better but already at or near some salary cap and don't want to trade certain minor leaguers what does that leave ? It leaves a big trade of multiple pieces which was why I brought up trading Q to the Dodgers before we started hearing about wanting Puig. It's really the only alternative left . I'm almost to the point of thinking screw these guys ( free agents who will feel they might've got bad advice from their agents and if sign with the Sox they come with a chip on their shoulders like they are pissed they had to sign here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 7, 2016 -> 04:45 PM) They do if they move some regulars . Which I've thought would happen eventually . Hahn have to be working within some kind of very tight budget or constraint. Maybe Caulfield was right for bringing up signings in June. I laughed every time I saw him mention it because its a terrible plan for a player. If the Sox are intent on still getting better but already at or near some salary cap and don't want to trade certain minor leaguers what does that leave ? It leaves a big trade of multiple pieces which was why I brought up trading Q to the Dodgers before we started hearing about wanting Puig. It's really the only alternative left . I'm almost to the point of thinking screw these guys ( free agents who will feel they might've got bad advice from their agents and if sign with the Sox they come with a chip on their shoulders like they are pissed they had to sign here.) The Sox can't trade away Q at this point. The time would have been early when more teams had unfilled rosters. But that would leave them further away from contending. Esp. as our 4th and 5th SPs are not locks. I still think an addition will be made more likely involving a trade without Anderson, Fulmer or Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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