southsider2k5 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 1h1 hour ago Besides Andrew Friedman #Rays, other names surfacing in LA include Billy Eppler #Yankees,Kenny Williams #WhiteSox, Mark Shapiro #Indians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Please let this be true, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 05:52 PM) Please let this be true, please! Yeah, what has that bum done for us lately. We never even heard anything about that 1b he scouted last offseason, that must have wound up as a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 04:54 PM) Yeah, what has that bum done for us lately. We never even heard anything about that 1b he scouted last offseason, that must have wound up as a disaster. I'm still pissed he reached for that reliever in the 1st round of 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Kenny, do not do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Oh, and doesn't Colletti have to actually be relieved of his duties before they can start doing this stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 04:54 PM) Yeah, what has that bum done for us lately. We never even heard anything about that 1b he scouted last offseason, that must have wound up as a disaster. All I said was please let this be true, nothing dirogitory about KW and this is the response I get? Somebody call the whaaaaaaambulance, someone hurt Balta's feewings. Whaaaaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Considering he wanted to step back from GMing due to stress / wanting to do a bit more scouting like he used to, I doubt this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Makes sense. He'd have more money to work with. No biggie either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 11:22 PM) Makes sense. He'd have more money to work with. No biggie either way. I never liked KW. however I will admit he helped bring the sox that championship ring. so by this default, I could go either way on being happy he is going or happy he is being recognize as a good viable GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I wouldn't mind it being the Hahn show. It isn't quite Theo and Jed. I bet if you asked a little more than casual baseball fans who the GM of the Cubs is more than half would say Theo. KW has for the most part, layed low. But we all know he has an ego, and I wonder how low he would be laying if the team was winning 90 games a year. If you like Dodgers prospects and players,KW to LA probably enhances chances of deals between the teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Please take the job KW. Time for Hahn to run the show 100% Edited October 10, 2014 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 06:05 PM) All I said was please let this be true, nothing dirogitory about KW and this is the response I get? Somebody call the whaaaaaaambulance, someone hurt Balta's feewings. Whaaaaa! I am perfectly content with Kenny Williams in his current role and would be disappointed if he were to leave as a fan of the White Sox. As a "top level scout" he is incredibly useful and Jose Dariel Abreu re-proves that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 06:19 PM) I am perfectly content with Kenny Williams in his current role and would be disappointed if he were to leave as a fan of the White Sox. As a "top level scout" he is incredibly useful and Jose Dariel Abreu re-proves that. No. You taught me yesterday that Abreu playing better than his salary is because of the manager. BTW, if JR listened KW's dollar figure for Abreu, he is playing somewhere else. Edited October 10, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 11, 2014 -> 12:26 AM) No. You taught me yesterday that Abreu playing better than his salary is because of the manager. BTW, if JR listened KW's dollar figure for Abreu, he is playing somewhere else. here is a question, can you trust Hahn in being able to recognize talent. kw went out and view Jose A and other prospects as well. all we know is Hahn can evaluate the talent. we do not know if Hahn can go out and view the talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I trust Hahn to hire the guys to go out and look at the talent. Part of being the boss is knowing your strengths and weaknesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 06:32 PM) here is a question, can you trust Hahn in being able to recognize talent. kw went out and view Jose A and other prospects as well. all we know is Hahn can evaluate the talent. we do not know if Hahn can go out and view the talent. There were plenty of teams on Abreu. If the big boys in Boston and NY and Anaheim ,Magic Johnson land and the northside of Chicago needed a 1B, his price would have gone a lot higher, and he probably is playing somewhere else. Balta acts like KW discovered Abreu on some back field. The signing was JR. Hahn is supposedly the GM. If he is, let him do his job without interference. Edited October 10, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 There is not enough Hollywood in Hollywood for KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 11, 2014 -> 12:52 AM) There were plenty of teams on Abreu. If the big boys in Boston and NY and Anaheim ,Magic Johnson land and the northside of Chicago needed a 1B, his price would have gone a lot higher, and he probably is playing somewhere else. Balta acts like KW discovered Abreu on some back field. The signing was JR. Hahn is supposedly the GM. If he is, let him do his job without interference. let be honest, the signing of Jose A was a huge surprise and a very pleasant one. no one and I mean no one would have imagine Jose A would be a huge success. now If I remember correctly, KW saw him, liked him and then called JR. now here is the wildcard. why did JR take it upon himself to go and outbid everyone to sign him. also didn't he outbid by 10 mil. the sox got very lucky, plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 06:19 PM) I am perfectly content with Kenny Williams in his current role and would be disappointed if he were to leave as a fan of the White Sox. As a "top level scout" he is incredibly useful and Jose Dariel Abreu re-proves that. I think we all Sox fans (including us) need to keep in mind that while KW had a hand in some good moves, he also made moves that were bad. Im not going to turn this into a debate where we list KW's good and bad moves but I will say that I respect KW for 2005 and in recent times trying to put together a winner, but KW is also a reason for the rebuild we are enduring now. It must not have been easy for Hahn to step into the roll of GM. Edited October 11, 2014 by StRoostifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Switching teams, the ultimate under the radar move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Underachieving with the highest payroll in the division? Sounds like the perfect job for KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 He'll take the job and do us a favor and give us Puig and Urias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 08:02 PM) let be honest, the signing of Jose A was a huge surprise and a very pleasant one. no one and I mean no one would have imagine Jose A would be a huge success. now If I remember correctly, KW saw him, liked him and then called JR. now here is the wildcard. why did JR take it upon himself to go and outbid everyone to sign him. also didn't he outbid by 10 mil. the sox got very lucky, plain and simple. This is just not true. While many scouts and people around baseball questioned Abreu's bat speed and athleticism, there are also some who compared him to Pujols and Cabrera. Looking in the predictions thread on this forum, even some folks came close in their Abreu projections. Let's be honest here, KW does not have psychic ability, even he didn't see this coming from Jose. If he did, our bid would be much higher. The contract we are paying him is that of an above average first basemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 10, 2014 -> 07:02 PM) let be honest, the signing of Jose A was a huge surprise and a very pleasant one. no one and I mean no one would have imagine Jose A would be a huge success. now If I remember correctly, KW saw him, liked him and then called JR. now here is the wildcard. why did JR take it upon himself to go and outbid everyone to sign him. also didn't he outbid by 10 mil. the sox got very lucky, plain and simple. What? He was essentially the best hitter in Cuban history. Some scouts had doubts about his transition, but the potential for a star hitter was always known. Secondly, a TON of us were very hopeful of signing him from day one because the situation was ripe for it -- we had low payroll commitments, had a franchise icon 1B announcing his retirement, were looking to spend on high-end talent without draft pick compensation attached thanks to being in year one of a rebuild, and all the teams that could outspend us had long-term, expensive solutions at 1B already. Every team in the ML had eyes on him, but the Sox were in the best position to spend and the best position to be the team that ultimately took the gamble. It was an obvious fit from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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