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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 09:41 AM)
Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 10m

 

#WhiteSox lineup for 8/17: De Aza 7, Ramirez 6, Abreu 3, Dunn DH, A. Garcia 9, Gillaspie 5, Beckham 4, Danks 8, Nieto 2. Carroll 1.`

 

More Dunn, more Gordo, yay. Unless I'm pleasantly surprised with a trade that yields something worthwhile, I have to side with the Clown on how RH is handling the situation.

 

Holding out for that surprise, because, overall, I really think Hahn is terrific, but feel he's been left a little "mouth agape" by the trade deadline deals not working out. Fearing that he stubbornly is holding out to the long-term detriment of the club.

 

I guess we'll know in 14 days or less.

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QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 12:19 PM)
More Dunn, more Gordo, yay. Unless I'm pleasantly surprised with a trade that yields something worthwhile, I have to side with the Clown on how RH is handling the situation.

 

Holding out for that surprise, because, overall, I really think Hahn is terrific, but feel he's been left a little "mouth agape" by the trade deadline deals not working out. Fearing that he stubbornly is holding out to the long-term detriment of the club.

 

I guess we'll know in 14 days or less.

Yea and maybe his hands are tied from upstairs and cutting guys just simply isn't an option in some cases. Didn't we eat Kepps salary?

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QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 11:56 AM)
Yea and maybe his hands are tied from upstairs and cutting guys just simply isn't an option in some cases. Didn't we eat Kepps salary?

Have wondered this is as well. Don't want to cast my lot with the "JR is cheap" crowd, but yes, there may be limits to how much he's willing to eat beyond Kepp. But if nothing is yielded by the 31st, it was clearly an org mistake, whoever the culprit.

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QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 01:19 PM)
Can't the catcher block the plate when he has the ball?

 

No, if he has the ball then he can be in the way, but you can't physically block the base with your body unless it's with the tag.

 

At least that's what I think the rule is.

 

 

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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 01:17 PM)
That's legit, he should be safe. He stepped where the plate was and Nieto's leg covered it.

Except Nieto had the ball when he got stepped on.

 

On that one, you punish Reyes for not sliding, and the thing is, to me he never had the intention of doing so. He didn't give me the appearance of "Nieto is close to the plate I have to stay up."

 

If Reyes starts his slide, you may very well have obstruction there. He may make contact and be blocked before Nieto has the ball. Nieto didn't lay his leg down until the ball was in his glove.

 

Technically, his path was never blocked due to stupid baserunning.

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QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 01:21 PM)
Except Nieto had the ball when he got stepped on.

 

On that one, you punish Reyes for not sliding, and the thing is, to me he never had the intention of doing so. He didn't give me the appearance of "Nieto is close to the plate I have to stay up."

 

If Reyes starts his slide, you may very well have obstruction there. He may make contact and be blocked before Nieto has the ball. Nieto didn't lay his leg down until the ball was in his glove.

 

Technically, his path was never blocked due to stupid baserunning.

I think Reyes saw how Nietos leg was sort of in the way and he didn't even bother to slide or anything knowing they were going to call him safe because that stupid rule. It's such a joke

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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 01:21 PM)
No, if he has the ball then he can be in the way, but you can't physically block the base with your body unless it's with the tag.

 

At least that's what I think the rule is.

 

What is the difference between being "in the way" and "physically blocking the plate"?

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One thing the rule fails to recognize is ground balls on the infield. In both cases where calls went against the Sox, the catcher literally only had a second to get up behind the plate and get set up to catch the ball. There's no time for them to look and see exactly where their feet are and adjust if necessary. The rule is stupid in all instances, but on sharp ground balls in the infield, the catcher has no chance to be legal.

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QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 01:21 PM)
Nieto didn't lay his leg down until the ball was in his glove.

Exactly. And isn't that how that stupid rule is written? It might be the worst rule in all of sports, and that's saying something.

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QUOTE (1dog @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 01:31 PM)
Exactly. And isn't that how that stupid rule is written? It might be the worst rule in all of sports, and that's saying something.

No, the worst rule in sports is "the puck accidentally goes out of play in your defensive zone" and it's a penalty.

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