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Soxtalk.com _ FutureSox Board _ Deep Dive on Moncada, Kopech

Posted by: NorthSideSox72 Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:38 PM

Shoveled together from many sources, http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2016/12/deep-dive-on-the-headliners-yoan-moncada-and-michael-kopech/. Give it a read, includes embedded videos too.

Similar article on the other two prospects coming tomorrow.


Posted by: BigHurt3515 Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:45 PM

Videos don't seem to be working for me. Just a black screen

Edit: took off adblocker and is working now

Posted by: Quinarvy Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:02 PM

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Kopech's arsenal is built around the aforementioned fastball, which he ran run up to 105, but sits comfortably between 96-100. Kopech achieves this type of exceptional velocity thanks to some arm acceleration that some scouts have rarely seen. Despite the outstanding velocity, Kopech features an easy delivery with no major mechanical red flags to speak of.


"comfortably between 96-100"

Everything I read about Kopech tells me he's gonna be a great fit for Coop-Herm

Posted by: SoxPride18 Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:04 PM

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:02 PM) *
"comfortably between 96-100"

Everything I read about Kopech tells me he's gonna be a great fit for Coop-Herm


Imagine if he hits Syndergaard level.....

Posted by: hi8is Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:00 PM

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) *
Imagine if he hits Syndergaard level.....

Yea. The Sale trade has a chance to be a new age Cano and Syndergaard for us at best. A complete f***ing s*** show at worst.

Posted by: NorthSideSox72 Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:11 PM

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:00 PM) *
Yea. The Sale trade has a chance to be a new age Cano and Syndergaard for us at best. A complete f***ing s*** show at worst.

That's how prospects work.

That said, for a guy who has been named the #1 prospect in all of baseball (Moncada), the history of failure at that level is very small. Almost all those guys provide at least some major league value, and a substantial number become stars.

Kopech is more of the low floor guy, he's someone who (even if healthy) could end up barely touching the majors due to command and/or off-field stuff (or injury). The other two guys are true prospects - Basabe could be an above average major league starter, or he could never see the majors.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Jan 3, 2017 -> 09:53 AM

Kopech in the weightroom.

https://twitter.com/MichaelKopech5/status/816013381652070401

Posted by: bmags Jan 3, 2017 -> 01:39 PM

He just lifted up SiX Chris Sales (how much WAR is that worth?)

Posted by: Con te Giolito Jan 3, 2017 -> 07:48 PM

best thing from Kopech's twitter is definitely his lifetime goal of throwing a 107 mph pitch. strong Lawrie vibe...love it.

Posted by: reiks12 Jan 4, 2017 -> 06:22 AM

Kopech seems to take pride in his fitness and goals. Love to see that

Posted by: southside guru Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:15 PM

I heard from a Phillies fielding guy that Moncada can't play the middle. Body looks the part. but the hands don't work! My bet - he's heading to 3b of the OF

Posted by: southside hitman Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:21 PM

QUOTE (southside guru @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:15 PM) *
I heard from a Phillies fielding guy that Moncada can't play the middle. Body looks the part. but the hands don't work! My bet - he's heading to 3b of the OF


Several scouts have indicated he lacks fundamentals there, but he does make highlight reel plays so its just a matter of consistency. He was passable at 3B when the Red Sox put him there, but some believe he would be utilize his speed in CF. It will be very interesting to see what Sox do with him.

Posted by: soxfan2014 Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:24 PM

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) *
Several scouts have indicated he lacks fundamentals there, but he does make highlight reel plays so its just a matter of consistency. He was passable at 3B when the Red Sox put him there, but some believe he would be utilize his speed in CF. It will be very interesting to see what Sox do with him.


Well they will obviously give him time at second. How long before they decided he should be used at 3B or in the OF is the real question.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:35 PM

QUOTE (southside guru @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:15 PM) *
I heard from a Phillies fielding guy that Moncada can't play the middle. Body looks the part. but the hands don't work! My bet - he's heading to 3b of the OF


One theme we have seen over the years is that the Cuban players don't get drilled in the fundamentals the same way that the American kids do. We saw it with older players like Alexei and Abreu, and we saw it with Dayan. That doesn't mean he can't do it, but he will definitely need reps.

Posted by: Deadpool Jan 9, 2017 -> 06:14 PM

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:38 PM) *
Shoveled together from many sources, http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2016/12/deep-dive-on-the-headliners-yoan-moncada-and-michael-kopech/. Give it a read, includes embedded videos too.

Similar article on the other two prospects coming tomorrow.

Really great stuff.

I'm not a batting expert by any stretch, but if the worry on Moncada is that he comes to the majors and fails to make consistent contact, would the White Sox be wise to encourage him to bat from the left?

Posted by: southside hitman Jan 9, 2017 -> 11:10 PM

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 06:14 PM) *
Really great stuff.

I'm not a batting expert by any stretch, but if the worry on Moncada is that he comes to the majors and fails to make consistent contact, would the White Sox be wise to encourage him to bat from the left?


Thanks for the kind words. I thought the same thing, but when I asked around, experts and scouts seem convinced his righty swing still has a lot of potential. Almost all his power numbers came from the left, but I was told he still has tremendous power from the right.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Jan 11, 2017 -> 03:25 PM

https://twitter.com/CSNChicago https://twitter.com/CSNChicago/status/819284872694857728 Don Cooper's 'eyes lit up' watching https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash prospect Michael Kopech: https://t.co/05x8FXqOZF (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes) https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSoxTalk?src=hash


Posted by: bmags Jan 11, 2017 -> 06:03 PM

Anyone listen to the Garfein/Coop interview?

Posted by: Con te Giolito Jan 11, 2017 -> 06:51 PM

No, is it available online?

Sure sounds like Coop's opinion on working with prospects is changing.

Posted by: southsider2k5 Feb 7, 2017 -> 04:02 PM

https://twitter.com/670TheScore https://twitter.com/670TheScore/status/829082423472300033 Jose Abreu embracing, readying for opportunity to mentor fellow Cuba native Yoan Moncada, writes https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine https://t.co/XNE1Io0BTR


Posted by: SoxAce Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:49 PM

Lets hope Moncada keeps his plate discipline..

Posted by: knightni Feb 8, 2017 -> 07:00 AM

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 11:49 PM) *
Lets hope Moncada keeps his plate discipline..

Let's hope that Moncada doesn't act like Puig/Cespedes and actually listens to Abreu.

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