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NorthSideSox72
post Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:38 PM
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Shoveled together from many sources, here's our deeper dive into Moncada and Kopech. Give it a read, includes embedded videos too.

Similar article on the other two prospects coming tomorrow.

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post Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:45 PM
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Videos don't seem to be working for me. Just a black screen

Edit: took off adblocker and is working now

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post Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:02 PM
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Kopech's arsenal is built around the aforementioned fastball, which he ran run up to 105, but sits comfortably between 96-100. Kopech achieves this type of exceptional velocity thanks to some arm acceleration that some scouts have rarely seen. Despite the outstanding velocity, Kopech features an easy delivery with no major mechanical red flags to speak of.


"comfortably between 96-100"

Everything I read about Kopech tells me he's gonna be a great fit for Coop-Herm
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post Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 10:02 PM) *
"comfortably between 96-100"

Everything I read about Kopech tells me he's gonna be a great fit for Coop-Herm


Imagine if he hits Syndergaard level.....
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post Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:00 PM
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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) *
Imagine if he hits Syndergaard level.....

Yea. The Sale trade has a chance to be a new age Cano and Syndergaard for us at best. A complete f***ing s*** show at worst.
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post Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:00 PM) *
Yea. The Sale trade has a chance to be a new age Cano and Syndergaard for us at best. A complete f***ing s*** show at worst.

That's how prospects work.

That said, for a guy who has been named the #1 prospect in all of baseball (Moncada), the history of failure at that level is very small. Almost all those guys provide at least some major league value, and a substantial number become stars.

Kopech is more of the low floor guy, he's someone who (even if healthy) could end up barely touching the majors due to command and/or off-field stuff (or injury). The other two guys are true prospects - Basabe could be an above average major league starter, or he could never see the majors.
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post Jan 3, 2017 -> 09:53 AM
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Kopech in the weightroom.

https://twitter.com/MichaelKopech5/status/816013381652070401
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post Jan 3, 2017 -> 01:39 PM
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He just lifted up SiX Chris Sales (how much WAR is that worth?)
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post Jan 3, 2017 -> 07:48 PM
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best thing from Kopech's twitter is definitely his lifetime goal of throwing a 107 mph pitch. strong Lawrie vibe...love it.
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post Jan 4, 2017 -> 06:22 AM
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Kopech seems to take pride in his fitness and goals. Love to see that
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post Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:15 PM
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I heard from a Phillies fielding guy that Moncada can't play the middle. Body looks the part. but the hands don't work! My bet - he's heading to 3b of the OF
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post Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (southside guru @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:15 PM) *
I heard from a Phillies fielding guy that Moncada can't play the middle. Body looks the part. but the hands don't work! My bet - he's heading to 3b of the OF


Several scouts have indicated he lacks fundamentals there, but he does make highlight reel plays so its just a matter of consistency. He was passable at 3B when the Red Sox put him there, but some believe he would be utilize his speed in CF. It will be very interesting to see what Sox do with him.
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post Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:24 PM
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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) *
Several scouts have indicated he lacks fundamentals there, but he does make highlight reel plays so its just a matter of consistency. He was passable at 3B when the Red Sox put him there, but some believe he would be utilize his speed in CF. It will be very interesting to see what Sox do with him.


Well they will obviously give him time at second. How long before they decided he should be used at 3B or in the OF is the real question.
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QUOTE (southside guru @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:15 PM) *
I heard from a Phillies fielding guy that Moncada can't play the middle. Body looks the part. but the hands don't work! My bet - he's heading to 3b of the OF


One theme we have seen over the years is that the Cuban players don't get drilled in the fundamentals the same way that the American kids do. We saw it with older players like Alexei and Abreu, and we saw it with Dayan. That doesn't mean he can't do it, but he will definitely need reps.
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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:38 PM) *
Shoveled together from many sources, here's our deeper dive into Moncada and Kopech. Give it a read, includes embedded videos too.

Similar article on the other two prospects coming tomorrow.

Really great stuff.

I'm not a batting expert by any stretch, but if the worry on Moncada is that he comes to the majors and fails to make consistent contact, would the White Sox be wise to encourage him to bat from the left?
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