President Donald Trump: The Thread

[Quin]

Obama totally got along with all of the press and never took light-hearted digs, even if they were questioning his birthplace.

 

[greg775]

I don't understand. He's the strongest leader this country has ever had. He's said so himself. If he's such a great leader, why is he so thin-skinned and decide to duck out of this? When was the last time a President even did that? Seems like a p***y is you ask me.

It has nothing to do with thin skinned. This is all out war between he and the press. Again, Obama's stand up routine at the correspondent's dinner was priceless. His jokes were VERY GOOD and the press roared its approval. Considering the HATE between Trump and the press, his speech probably would have drawn NO LAUGHS. Maybe even groans and boos as the press would have him in their element. Trump despises the press; the press despises Trump. Duck out of this? He simply could not attend. Too much hate on both sides.

 

but i didn't vote for the man. I was all about Bernie baby. I don't even remember who I voted for before, I prolly wrote in Ventura or something but i can tell you that i didn't vote for trump.

 

he is very hated by the press right now. if he was smart, he would have just kept a low profile at one of his golf courses, got in 36 holes this weekend like rich people like him do, and call it a weekend. My gawd he doesn't need this right now, Hannity says Trump has had a great 100 days, sorta seems like Donny is becoming da man.

 

Saved you a post, Greg.

Yes you know my positions. Cool. I can't get a straight answer out of anybody on this board, but I am willing to give my position on all matters.

[greg775]

What exactly would you like me to discuss? do you think Trump is the first president since Reagan (or Nixon)who didn't like certain members of the press of organizations? Do you think they all had great relationships with reporters that covered them?

 

How about you look at the fact that he not only skipped out on the dinner(and supposedly ordered the rest of his staff to do the same), but he held a rally and bragged about how he wasn't attending. This guy was too thin skinned to attend but at the same time could insult all of them because he didn't attend.

 

But hey, he is da man. Tell me all about your favorite p**** grabber

I'd love to hear the speeches of first term presidents at the correspondents dinner after 100 days in office. I said Nixon might have been the last president to have been hated like this. He wasn't too thin skinned to attend, he was smart. He is in a WAR with the press. The press is at war with him. He copied my mama's saying: "If you have nothing good to say about somebody say nothing at all."

I still think I am a good American. Sure I am wishing Trump well and hope he succeeds. Why wouldn't I? I want what is best for our country and myself both. Why would I want four years of suck? I didn't vote for him, but I support him. Like I said if and when he commits an impeachable offense, get rid of him. But until then hope for the best.

And this Korea thing could get pretty ugly pretty fast. I predict in fact it will get very ugly.

Edited May 1, 2017 by greg775

[caulfield12]

I'd love to hear the speeches of first term presidents at the correspondents dinner after 100 days in office. I said Nixon might have been the last president to have been hated like this. He wasn't too thin skinned to attend, he was smart. He is in a WAR with the press. The press is at war with him. He copied my mama's saying: "If you have nothing good to say about somebody say nothing at all."

I still think I am a good American. Sure I am wishing Trump well and hope he succeeds. Why wouldn't I? I want what is best for our country and myself both. Why would I want four years of suck? I didn't vote for him, but I support him. Like I said if and when he commits an impeachable offense, get rid of him. But until then hope for the best.

And this Korea thing could get pretty ugly pretty fast. I predict in fact it will get very ugly.

 

Nixon was smart enough not to attend the WHCD.

[whtsoxfan]

Last time a president missed was Reagan, who had been shot by John Hinckley in 1981.

 

And Richard Nixon, for obvious reasons.

 

 

Jimmy Carter also skipped WHCD

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/nixon-carter...article/2007004

[caulfield12]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-just-m...-185102206.html

 

How Trump claimed to have stopped Chinese currency manipulation...despite the fact that they have been spending massive amount of capital reserves to actually prop up the RMB since late in the summer of 2015.

 

 

 

Trump said: "Pre-existing conditions are in the bill. And I just watched another network than yours, and they were saying, 'Pre-existing is not covered.' Pre-existing conditions are in the bill. And I mandate it. I said, 'Has to be.'"

 

Trump said during the interview that if he's unable to renegotiate a long-standing free trade agreement with Mexico and Canada, then he'll terminate the pact.

 

He also spoke about tensions with North Korea. Asked about the failure of several North Korean missile tests recently, Trump said he'd "rather not discuss it. But perhaps they're just not very good missiles. But eventually, he'll have good missiles."

 

Trump also said he is willing to use the trade issue as leverage to get China's help with North Korea. "Trade is very important. But massive warfare with millions, potentially millions of people being killed? That, as we would say, trumps trade."

 

And he acknowledged the presidency is "a tough job. But I've had a lot of tough jobs. I've had things that were tougher, although I'll let you know that better at the end of eight years. Perhaps eight years. Hopefully, eight years."

 

Also this week, the president will welcome Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to the White House. And he'll head to New York City on Thursday where he'll visit the USS Intrepid to mark the 75th anniversary of a World War II naval battle.

 

On Sunday morning, Trump headed to Trump National Golf Club in Virginia. The White House did not immediately clarify whether he was holding meetings or golfing.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/100-days-tru...-064021825.html

 

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...politico-215087

 

All the outreach has hardly convinced Europeans that Trump has their back, and the overall feeling of gloom hanging over the relationship is palpable. A recent Pew Research Center survey of European thought leaders found 77 percent preparing for worsening diplomatic relations with the United States in the Trump era and 62 percent looking at troubled times ahead on security and economic issues. Eighty-five percent in the survey said Trump was “dangerous”—and another 87 percent said they had little to no confidence that Trump would do the right thing in world affairs, a far worse rating than even for Russian President Vladimir Putin.

 

...

 

Early one February weekend, President Trump let loose a cryptic complaint, followed by a barrage of Fox News-inspired tweets, about Sweden of all places. He made the Nordic country, home of gleaming lakes, cheap modernist furniture and one of the world’s highest standards of living, seem like a dystopian hellhole overrun with rampaging refugees.

 

Sweden was not amused.

 

“They thought the man had gone bananas,” says Carl Bildt, Sweden’s former prime minister, foreign minister and defense minister, in a new interview for The Global POLITICO, our weekly podcast on world affairs. “It was a somewhat unsettling thing to see the president of the United States without any factual basis whatsoever lunge out against a small country in the way that he did.”

Edited May 1, 2017 by caulfield12

[Middle Buffalo]

Jimmy Carter also skipped WHCD

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/nixon-carter...article/2007004

The press has been so unfair to Trump. So unfair. They handled Obama & the Clintons with kid gloves.

Edited May 1, 2017 by Middle Buffalo

[caulfield12]

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/331181-...s-trade-threats

 

GOP growing frustrated with Trump's trade "policies"

[StrangeSox]

 

for the record, Andrew Jackson was a plantation-owning slaver who died 16 years before the Civil War started.

Edited May 1, 2017 by StrangeSox

[CrimsonWeltall]

 

for the record, Andrew Jackson was a plantation-owning slaver who died 16 years before the Civil War started.

 

Hey if the US had kept electing people who were pro-slavery, the South wouldn't have seceded. Trump = history genius

[caulfield12]

More Jacksons, more Nathan Bedford Forrests, problem solved. John C. Calhoun was the man! I wish I could beat some of those Tuesday Club and House Freedom Caucus members with a stick like he did. Damn you, Henry Clay. Wait, isn't that the owner of the Lions? And if it wasn't for that darned meddling Frederick Douglass, I would have won the popular vote bigly. He registered five million "illegal" freed men to vote single-handedly in the Carolinas, along with Nat Turner. That's what Matt Drudge and that cute blonde on Fox and Friends say, at least.

Edited May 1, 2017 by caulfield12

[GoSox05]

The trail of tears was so good. The media was very unfair to Jackson. Sad.

[StrangeSox]

Trump: I don't stand by anything

 

[Middle Buffalo]

Good stuff StrangeSox. I'm pretty sure Trump is becoming da man.

[NorthSideSox72]

The President, any President, is the target of massive criticism and pressure. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter... Modern Presidents have all faced it, even when it was hard. And I don't just mean WHCD - I mean full press briefings, questions from outlets they don't like, etc. Except Trump.

 

He's a coward. This isn't complicated. He wilts under pressure.

 

[greg775]

Except you admit you don't pay attention to what's going on, have your head in the sand and claim you get your "news" from Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh (Who don't even provide news, they are entertainers).

You keep repeating yourself, but it isn't helping.

At least I answer questions and make my comments known. I can't get a straight answer out of anybody on this board.

 

Trump: I don't stand by anything

I'm all for the media asking whatever they want, but if you do press, there's a good chance the interview will end abruptly. That reporter did a nice job. He'll be known for his aggressiveness and being a good reporter. He'll never get another interview with Trump, however, which is fine. That probably doesn't bother the reporter. I don't blame Trump for ending the interview, though. They were at an impasse and he kept pressing Trump so Trump, who has the hammer, said bye bye. It's a win/win. The reporter did a nice job being aggressive and will be well known for not backing down.

 

The President, any President, is the target of massive criticism and pressure. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter... Modern Presidents have all faced it, even when it was hard. And I don't just mean WHCD - I mean full press briefings, questions from outlets they don't like, etc. Except Trump.

 

He's a coward. This isn't complicated. He wilts under pressure.

I don't know how skipping a dinner makes him a coward. Or cutting short that John Dickerson interview makes him a coward. Explain please? Nobody who takes this position has said anything but a quick one liner that Trump is a coward or sucks or whatever. I repeat (nobody has addressed my point), why in the world would he go to a dinner with people who he abhors and who abhor him? Right now at this juncture, the relationship is press despises Trump and Trump despises press. So why would you go break bread with your enemy? Maybe next year if the relationship improves, but rather than say he's a coward, I'll say he's smart. The President's speech at that dinner, if the Obama era is any indication, is a hilarious speech in which the audience roars it's approval. Trumps speech might have been booed. Certainly none of the media were going to laugh at his jokes. At this juncture, it had a chance to be very damaging to Trump. So if you are Trump, a rich, egotistical man, you DON'T put yourself at that dinner. It has nothing to do with being a coward. Who breaks bread with people they hate? Like Trump said, it had all the makings of a boring dinner without him and by all accounts it was. I saw CNN was quoting the comedian who spoke. WHo cares what the comic thinks of Trump?

How the hell is he a coward by not going to a dinner in which he had no business attending? You might call him a snob in not wanting to share a room with the lowly (to him) reporters, but a coward? I don't think he feared anything. He didn't want to be there. Big deal.

Edited May 1, 2017 by greg775

[bmags]

Not going to the WHCD was my favorite thing Trump has done.

[StrangeSox]

Good stuff StrangeSox. I'm pretty sure Trump is becoming da man.

Transcripts of his interviews melt my brain

[Middle Buffalo]

At least I answer questions and make my comments known. I can't get a straight answer out of anybody on this board.

 

 

I'm all for the media asking whatever they want, but if you do press, there's a good chance the interview will end abruptly. That reporter did a nice job. He'll be known for his aggressiveness and being a good reporter. He'll never get another interview with Trump, however, which is fine. That probably doesn't bother the reporter. I don't blame Trump for ending the interview, though. They were at an impasse and he kept pressing Trump so Trump, who has the hammer, said bye bye. It's a win/win. The reporter did a nice job being aggressive and will be well known for not backing down.

The reporter gave Trump an opportunity to clarify his statement. Trump is on record saying "lying press" & "fake news," etc. So, here he has an opportunity to explain what he meant when he was talking about the wiretapping. And, rather than clarify, he ended the interview. Sure, he has the hammer, but I don't see how you can think he was in the right.

 

As for the WHCD, I'm not sure your interpretation of Trump's position is wrong. Trump would have been roasted, but he would have had an opportunity for rebuttal. The truth is he is very thin skinned. It has been evident since the debates. But, Trump continues to prove that he is just a bully, and as soon as someone turns the table on him or has an opportunity (the reporter & WHCD), he runs and hides.

 

And, Greg, it's ironic that you are getting frustrated by people not answering your questions, but you are defending Trump for doing the same and and being evasive.

Edited May 1, 2017 by Middle Buffalo

[greg775]

The reporter gave Trump an opportunity to clarify his statement. Trump is on record saying "lying press" & "fake news," etc. So, here he has an opportunity to explain what he meant when he was talking about the wiretapping. And, rather than clarify, he ended the interview. Sure, he has the hammer, but I don't see how you can think he was in the right.

 

As for the WHCD, I'm not sure your interpretation of Trump's position is wrong. Trump would have been roasted, but he would have had an opportunity for rebuttal. The truth is he is very thin skinned. It has been evident since the debates. But, Trump continues to prove that he is just a bully, and as soon as someone turns the table on him or has an opportunity (the reporter & WHCD), he runs and hides.

 

And, Greg, it's ironic that you are getting frustrated by people not answering your questions, but you are defending Trump for doing the same and and being evasive.

 

First paragraph: I said the reporter did a nice job. Trump obviously doesn't want to go there. When the subject doesn't want to go there and you hammer the point 2-3 times, good for you, the reporter. The reporter deserves plaudits, kudos, but there is the risk of the subject ending the interview and that's what happened.

Second paragragh: Trump would have been roasted and had opportunity for rebuttal? Doesn't sound like a fun Saturday night when you hate the people roasting you and they hate you. 100 days in is no time for him to be going to a press dinner event. Runs and hides? He blasted the dinner and blasted the people at the dinner in his comment about not going. Said it would be extremely boring. How's he hiding? It's not like it's the queen of England he stiffed. He stiffed the media. Media have thick skin and are used to being shunned quite frankly. They are big boys and girls and had a nice event without him.

Third graph: I'm not really defending Trump. I'm pointing out why he was SMART to not go to the dinner and I'm pointing out the risks of the line of questioning the reporter took. It was an aggressive line of questioning and that's cool. I applaud the reporter. Maybe the next reporter to get a 1 on 1 with Trump will also pursue the same line of questioning. That'd be fine with me but if he says once he won't go there you might as well move on rather than fight him on it or he could walk out. Either way is fine. Just be prepared for him to walk out if u are the reporter.

Edited May 2, 2017 by greg775

[Kyyle23]

Wat

[NorthSideSox72]

I don't know how skipping a dinner makes him a coward. Or cutting short that John Dickerson interview makes him a coward. Explain please? Nobody who takes this position has said anything but a quick one liner that Trump is a coward or sucks or whatever. I repeat (nobody has addressed my point), why in the world would he go to a dinner with people who he abhors and who abhor him? Right now at this juncture, the relationship is press despises Trump and Trump despises press. So why would you go break bread with your enemy? Maybe next year if the relationship improves, but rather than say he's a coward, I'll say he's smart. The President's speech at that dinner, if the Obama era is any indication, is a hilarious speech in which the audience roars it's approval. Trumps speech might have been booed. Certainly none of the media were going to laugh at his jokes. At this juncture, it had a chance to be very damaging to Trump. So if you are Trump, a rich, egotistical man, you DON'T put yourself at that dinner. It has nothing to do with being a coward. Who breaks bread with people they hate? Like Trump said, it had all the makings of a boring dinner without him and by all accounts it was. I saw CNN was quoting the comedian who spoke. WHo cares what the comic thinks of Trump?

How the hell is he a coward by not going to a dinner in which he had no business attending? You might call him a snob in not wanting to share a room with the lowly (to him) reporters, but a coward? I don't think he feared anything. He didn't want to be there. Big deal.

 

Very little is more important in a democracy than a free press with reasonable access to it's leaders. No matter how good or bad they are at their jobs, they play a crucial role.

 

Trump doesn't want that - and that is dictatorship 101.

 

You have fallen hook, line and sinker for Trump's game. He's made the press into an enemy, as if they were some terrorist-infested nation. It's an absurd notion, but apparently people like you have no notion of what he's doing and fell right for it.

 

Forget his policy points. Look at what it means that he's turned the press into an enemy. Not on the occasional issue, or one particular outlet, but the whole swath nearly all the time. Just take 1 minute and think about the road that goes down.

 

[caulfield12]

Greg, the biggest point with Trump is the fact that he has no intention of answering the question...but he loves, absolutely craves the attention and being in the public eye 24/7.

 

If the reporter doesn't ask tough questions, he might as well just give up and join Fox News and lob softball Bill O'Reilly questions at him. That's if access is more important than integrity. As far as the WH Correspondents' Dinner goes, the first thing that would have been brought up was the back and forth about Obama and the Birther Movement, the last time Trump attended when Obama roasted him. His staff clearly wants to avoid that particular iceberg.

 

Actually, the reporter Trump most craves validation from is Maggie Haberman of the NY Times, who has covered him for decades. They have a love/hate relationship, but he knows she will always hold him accountable, but that she's also fair to him...so he declares war on the NY Times and Washington Post, but they provide the coverage that he can't breathe without.

 

 

There's a cost to this. Look at all the confusion over the last 24-48 hours about pre-existing conditions. Trump deeply wants to be "loved" by the people, so he always says things that will make him more popular but at the same time, are completely unrealistic from a governing standpoint. I don't think Trump really understands the policy implications of what he's saying, he just thinks "someone can fix it for him" and he just has to be the big picture guy who makes deals and gets wins, like he'd typically do with real estate transactions. Nobody has a clue right now how that type of strategy can possibly work out well if he wants to work with both sides of the GOP House, whose allegiance is first to themselves.

 

 

And you can see that he's caught between both worlds, Mar-A-Lago/Manhattan and "with the people of the Rust Belt." He made a statement at the end of his speech Saturday that he'd bring a message back to the media next year at the WHCD (intimating he would attend) and got booed vociferously. He wants to schmooze with those celebrities and "elite" as much as anyone (who else becomes owner of the Miss USA/Miss Universe and starts a modeling agency if they don't?), but that's not in his best interest politically.

Edited May 2, 2017 by caulfield12

[StrangeSox]

These Fox graphics crack me up

 

[caulfield12]

FDR really sucked, too!!!

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/great-depre...job-loss-2012-4

 

Under Obama:

"Jobs growth resumed much faster than average of recent financial crises in advanced economies."

 

Spain (1974), Norway (1986), Finland (1989), Sweden (1989), Japan (1991)