bruni Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Well gang, the Price deal (to me) officially seals the deal: The White Sox CAN NOT trade Q or Sale. There is no possible way to recoup the value that each is in terms of years of control and financial commitment left for the WSox. If I were Sale and Q, I'd be firing my agents for not having the foresight to anticipate the market for pitching. Security when young is one thing, but they cost themselves truckloads of $$. Keep the pitching and keep attempting to build around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 100% agree. I'd keep Rodon, Fulmer, and Johnson for the foreseeable future too. Sale/Q/Rodon/Fulmer/Johnson is DEFINITELY a more than formidable starting rotation for the next 3-4 years. Like you said, they have the pitching. They need to build around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Samardzija gonna cash in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:36 PM) Samardzija gonna cash in. Maybe. The problem with these "precedent-setting" deals is that they have the secondary effect of removing the deepest pocket from the bidding pool. There are four teams that are going to commit big on a starter before Samardzija's name gets pulled, and the Tigers and BoSox are already out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (bruni @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 04:26 PM) Well gang, the Price deal (to me) officially seals the deal: The White Sox CAN NOT trade Q or Sale. There is no possible way to recoup the value that each is in terms of years of control and financial commitment left for the WSox. If I were Sale and Q, I'd be firing my agents for not having the foresight to anticipate the market for pitching. Security when young is one thing, but they cost themselves truckloads of $$. Keep the pitching and keep attempting to build around it. Maybe it means the opposite: a great opportunity to, (dare I suggest something that the Sox haven't done in a decade+) sell high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 BUT THE CUBS WILL GET HIM BECAUSE MADDON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The White Sox signed David Price!? Then why is this here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I'm going to guess the bosox hate this deal by year 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Only 2 options I see this team being good in the next year or 2 and sustaining that success into the future 1. Trade 1 of Sale, Q, Rodon 2. JR opens the payroll up to 140+ million And I wouldn't count on option 2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 04:52 PM) The White Sox signed David Price!? Then why is this here? I'm lucky I heard the news before logging on. I would've assumed (by the title and this being PHT) that we signed Price and I would've had a heart attack Mods, maybe one of you could add "Boston signs" to the title or something? Anyway, that deal will be biting them in the ass in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) Maybe it means the opposite: a great opportunity to, (dare I suggest something that the Sox haven't done in a decade+) sell high. Yeah this was my thought. Sox could have a real good opportunity to cash in on Quintana after teams see this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 11:04 PM) Yeah this was my thought. Sox could have a real good opportunity to cash in on Quintana after teams see this deal. it will all depends on the players coming back on the rtn for the trade. there are only several team that can really sweeten that idea of a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruni Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Well if the Dodgers lose out on Grienke and the Cubs don't come away with a top of the rotation starter, perhaps they will be more anxious to grossly overpay for a WSox pitcher, but I doubt the WSox go that route esp now unless it is a Hershel Walker-esque, Vikings-Cowboys deal in terms of lopsidedness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (bruni @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 12:15 AM) Well if the Dodgers lose out on Grienke and the Cubs don't come away with a top of the rotation starter, perhaps they will be more anxious to grossly overpay for a WSox pitcher, but I doubt the WSox go that route esp now unless it is a Hershel Walker-esque, Vikings-Cowboys deal in terms of lopsidedness... the dodgers can let zach walk to the gaints. talk about the rivalry. the northside will sign shark if all else fail. or maybe cueto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:18 PM) the dodgers can let zach walk to the gaints. talk about the rivalry. the northside will sign shark if all else fail. or maybe cueto. Either one of these will happen for the Cubs I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Sad things about deals like this is that it's really hard for me to imagine Sale wanting to stay with the Sox if they aren't winning and aren't paying him market value. You know sure as s*** the Sox won't pay him what he deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Like others have said, this deal makes Sale & Quintana's trade value sky rocket. They are not trading either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Although it's probably not likely, I could see a team getting desperate and overpaying for Sale or Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Ill give it 2.5 years before Boston regrets this deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:36 PM) Like others have said, this deal makes Sale & Quintana's trade value sky rocket. They are not trading either of them. 1000% agree. The Sox cannot afford to trade such cheap pitching and no team will offer up full value so I expect Sale and Q to fulfill their contracts. That makes me a happy Sox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) 1000% agree. The Sox cannot afford to trade such cheap pitching and no team will offer up full value so I expect Sale and Q to fulfill their contracts. That makes me a happy Sox fan. The big question I'm wondering is if they'll stay on the Sox after those deals are over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Boston is already regretting Hanley and Panda deals. They will regret this in a couple seasons also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I think he should be pretty good for a few seasons. I just wonder if he ever gets the postseason problem figured out. It has to be on his mind by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 1, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) The big question I'm wondering is if they'll stay on the Sox after those deals are over. As long as the Sox keep doing a good job of scouting and developing pitching, I could honestly care less. Let em both go to FA and cash in, as long as its another team paying the obscene price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The Sox have to open the pocket book and sign Heyward. Our pitching is cheap for the rest of the decade. Spend some dough on some premium bats. Heyward is the least risky FA signing one can get just based on his age. Gotta spend some dough and compete or Abreu is gonna opt out and walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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