southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 More at link http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/968...pen-next-season CHICAGO -- The White Sox view Carlos Rodon as competition for the 2015 rotation coming out of Spring Training. There's also a chance Rodon could break camp as part of the bullpen next April. "It's conceivable he could be a member of the bullpen in 2015 at some point," said White Sox general manager Rick Hahn, who spoke of the team's top pick in the 2014 First-Year Player Draft and third selection overall as part of Sunday's season-ending interview. "I do believe, much like when we had Chris Sale in a similar situation, that his long-term future is at the front end of a rotation, but we are not necessarily committed that it has to be on Day 1 as part of a rotation in order to get to that spot." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 11:19 AM) More at link http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/968...pen-next-season That's fine...they will figure it out. Lots of other things to worry about as a Sox fan than this, IMHO anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think he only comes out the bullpen if they're in a spot to actually compete for a playoff spot come July/August, I can't see him breaking camp with the team, Sox will still be mindful with his clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I don't agree with this at all. It worked out for Sale, but ask the Rangers how it worked out for Feliz. Everyone's different, but if Rodon tears it up in Spring Training and we don't have a better option in the rotation, then he should absolutely be in the starting rotation on opening day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) I think he only comes out the bullpen if they're in a spot to actually compete for a playoff spot come July/August, I can't see him breaking camp with the team, Sox will still be mindful with his clock. Perhaps I took the quote the wrong way, but the way I understood was that they'd start Rodon in the bullpen first if he does make the ML team out of spring training, which seems like a waste of his service time. If they're going to do what you're saying, then I think that's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 "Its conceivable . . . " is the quote. I already knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 01:24 PM) I don't agree with this at all. It worked out for Sale, but ask the Rangers how it worked out for Feliz. Everyone's different, but if Rodon tears it up in Spring Training and we don't have a better option in the rotation, then he should absolutely be in the starting rotation on opening day. I do not like the idea of that at all. If he breaks camp with the White Sox and stays up the entire time, then they have control of him for 6 years. If they wait a month, then they have control of him for 6 years and 5 months. With Boras as his agent for the foreseeable future, you have to maximize service time above anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm not worried about it because I don't think it's going to happen but I'm definitely not a fan of bullpenning Rodon for this season. We need starting pitchers, if he's going to be on the Major League team, he should be starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Daniel Bard is another name that crapped out. If he's with the big club at all he should be starting. Just... just ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 01:36 PM) I'm not worried about it because I don't think it's going to happen but I'm definitely not a fan of bullpenning Rodon for this season. We need starting pitchers, if he's going to be on the Major League team, he should be starting. I'm just mad he even suggested the possibility. Maybe he's just trying to appease Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I bet this is Robin's idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Perhaps Bard and Feliz would have crapped out nearly right away if they were given starting roles. Perhaps they should have always been relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Carlos Rodon will not be pitching out of the bullpen. 1 year ago, scouts were talking about him as 1 of the 10 best pitchers on the planet after his Soph season at NC State. He won't start the year with the White Sox but I'd be stunned if they waste any of his big league time pitching out of the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I don't care if Rodon pitches out of the rotation or the bullpen in his 1st year, but what I DO care about is that this occurs after Super Two has passes. I don't want to see him up until June, UNLESS Hahn adds some big pieces this offseason and the team could actually compete for a playoff spot next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 In the back of my mind, I wonder if this is supposed to be a message to the rest of MLB that we don't need to trade a starting pitcher this winter, or that we don't need to overpay for a reliever... or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 02:28 PM) In the back of my mind, I wonder if this is supposed to be a message to the rest of MLB that we don't need to trade a starting pitcher this winter, or that we don't need to overpay for a reliever... or both. That's all fine and dandy, but the rest of baseball does have access to the White Sox roster and knows they need starters and relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think Carlos Rodon is going to have more to say about the path of his career than the White Sox. If he demonstrates that he's an elite pitcher who's talents are being wasted in the pen or in the minors, he'll force the Sox to put him in the rotation. Let's see what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 02:22 PM) Carlos Rodon will not be pitching out of the bullpen. 1 year ago, scouts were talking about him as 1 of the 10 best pitchers on the planet after his Soph season at NC State. He won't start the year with the White Sox but I'd be stunned if they waste any of his big league time pitching out of the bullpen. Agreed. I watched an interview with Hahn and by the way he talked, Rodon would either be starting for Charlotte or starting for the Sox. I go ahead and start Rodon at Charlotte for two reasons... 1- it allows Carlos some time to work on his control before making his MLB debut. 2- it buys time for Danks to hopefully pitch well enough to be traded in June 2015 and then promote Rodon to take his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think it may be something to keep Rodon on track this winter. Young guys who think they are basically owed a spot, usually wind up showing they probably shouldn't have assumed as much. I am happy the Sox drafted him. It is who I wanted them to draft all along, but it doesn't hurt to send a message basically saying you can have it, but you have to earn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 He's only saying that he wants Rodon in the bullpen because he hasn't found a trade partner for Danks yet. This opinion will change after Danks is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hahn could have said that it's conceivable that Sale could pitch out of the bullpen too, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen. There are a lot of things that are conceivable that are not ultimately realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 04:13 PM) Hahn could have said that it's conceivable that Sale could pitch out of the bullpen too, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen. There are a lot of things that are conceivable that are not ultimately realistic. Except that in his first full year...oh never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It's not even October yet. Pitchers and catchers don't report for another 4.5 months. Not gonna take any of these comments seriously right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Just for reference, I do promise to melt down if this actually happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Not liking this idea, but it's not as bad as the things that were running through my mind between the time I read the thread topic and the time I read the first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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