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QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 03:07 PM)
Still has to get through Congress....sh*t

Does it? Can you source this? I was under the impression that Congress could vote to overturn the repeal, but if they don't do anything it'll go forward.

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QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 02:35 PM)
Does it? Can you source this? I was under the impression that Congress could vote to overturn the repeal, but if they don't do anything it'll go forward.

 

Saw a reporter on Twitter. Maybe that is what they meant.

 

Can we convince Trump that Ajit Pai is Muslim?

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 02:55 PM)
Every single state is going to sue the FCC.

 

Yeah this is going to be challenged and I doubt anything happens for another couple of years. And from there the telecom companies aren't going to change their plans right away. They'll want to pretend like they've been forced to do so due to increase costs of infrastructure or some bulls***.

 

It'll be an interesting world in about 5 years. Disney, Facebook, Google, Netflix v. AT&T, Comcast and Turner. Who wins?

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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 04:33 PM)
Yeah this is going to be challenged and I doubt anything happens for another couple of years. And from there the telecom companies aren't going to change their plans right away. They'll want to pretend like they've been forced to do so due to increase costs of infrastructure or some bulls***.

 

It'll be an interesting world in about 5 years. Disney, Facebook, Google, Netflix v. AT&T, Comcast and Turner. Who wins?

 

They've already been caught in the past messing around with throttling and data caps which is why the FCC changed their stance in 2015. Comcast removed neutrality language from their website and official documents earlier this year.

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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 03:33 PM)
Yeah this is going to be challenged and I doubt anything happens for another couple of years. And from there the telecom companies aren't going to change their plans right away. They'll want to pretend like they've been forced to do so due to increase costs of infrastructure or some bulls***.

 

It'll be an interesting world in about 5 years. Disney, Facebook, Google, Netflix v. AT&T, Comcast and Turner. Who wins?

 

 

Those arent going to be the sides. Expect teams. Im guessing ATT and Comcast are going to try and work a deal with Disney because Disney is about to leverage their massive ip catalog against everyone.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 04:04 PM)
Those arent going to be the sides. Expect teams. Im guessing ATT and Comcast are going to try and work a deal with Disney because Disney is about to leverage their massive ip catalog against everyone.

If this goes ahead, everything will cost something.

 

I put this in layman's terms for someone today. Think about that free wifi you get at a hotel or airport. Maybe you watch an ad or something to get access and its extremely basic and kind of slow, but thats the free (or basic) tier. If you want 4k or HD streaming you have to pay, if you want no ads you have to pay.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 05:38 PM)
Don't worry everyone, I'm sure you can trust Comcast to handle this well and fairly.

I mean, those MF'ers already throttle us without our knowledge. And unless you test and document frequently you would never know.

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This is the sort of garbage we can expect more and more of going forward.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/fawfulfan/status...src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

Among other things, T-Mobile blocked Google Wallet in favor of its own payment system, a clearly anticompetitive practice.

 

The FCC issued rules in 2010 to prevent this, but courts voided it, saying the govt would have to declare ISPs common carriers. So they did in 2015.

 

The 2015 reclassification as common carriers didn't come out of nowhere. It was the result of years of enforcement efforts against anticompetitive behavior and several court cases that said clearly they had to be reclassified to enforce these rules.

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The one hope here is that another major company - Google, Facebook, Amazon, maybe even Disney (via agreements) - comes along and offers up their own service to compete with Comcast/AT&T. If those ISP's are going to throttle service to popular streaming platforms, those companies (Netflix, Disney, Amazon, etc) are going to lose money. They have an incentive to find an alternative means to get their product out to people.

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