nitetrain8601

I would be excited, but while the Sox may, if all pans out, have young, controllable young pitching, that's not saying much. That's how JR likes his teams built. Young and cheap. The entire roster will be young and cheap. The main thing missing is good. We all know he won't supplement the roster. Vaughn looks like a 4A player, at best. Benentendi, numbers wise, might be the worst signing in MLB in the past 14 years.

Warning: Incoming Rant The problem is the lack of finances JR and the board make available for FAs or even big trade acquisitions. The problem is the team owner lying through his teeth about making a quick hire to ensure he had a leg up on the competition because he wanted to remain competitive this year. The problem is the owner scoffs at the idea of paying any player market value. The problem is the owner wants to model himself after small market KC Royals. The problem is the goddamn owner's favorite player is David Eckstein. The problem is the owner doesn't value the fans, their opinions, or their desires. The problem is, the owner has always had this mindset and gotten away with it. He lucked into one world series. He hired Kenny because it would be cheaper than the alternative. He hired Ozzie who was so damn determined to take any job, that he took one where he argued with the GM in the goddamn interview room. The problem was, the owner still allowed the hire because it would still be cheaper than the alternatives. This goddamn owner hired his friend when a WS caliber manager was available. The problem is, that same damn owner won't even hire a competent staff that could hide a lot of his cheapness on the field; he rather hire the cheapest staff that money can hire. The same goddamn owner who only makes 250 of his novelty shakes on gameday because he's too fkn cheap to make any more. "You know the price of a cow went up". And that's just the owner. We have a GM who is in over his head. He didn't have credentials to be leading the farm system, yet here he was, leading the farm system. And what did that farm system produce in his time? A whole lot of nothing. Many of his top prospects wouldn't be ranked in the top 25 of other organizations. Why? Well part of the reason why is because the goddamn owner refuses to pay over slot for players and refuses to trade for international money. Why is he here? Because the owner was too cheap and too lazy to go actually find someone worth a damn. So lazy, in fact, that he sought a waiver from MLB to let him just make the hire. His idea of creating a competitive ball club is trading whatever prospects we have for bench players or fringe MLB type. To give playing time to 4A players or contracts to players way past their bedtime and their prime. We have a GM who's okay with knowing that he won't ever be able to spend a dime. And we have that same GM who recommended the piece of s%*# manager. And who is the manager? The worst manager, coach, leader of any professional sports team in the world. I mean it. I have more confidence in a soccer coach who's never even watched baseball to do a better job leading these men. This organization is a joke, but you know what's more of a joke? Major league baseball. Because to them, as long as the good ole boys club is not interrupted, they could give a s%*# less about competition in their sport. They could care less about fun. It's why you have s%*# popping up in Oakland, and more s%*# popping up in the third biggest city in the nation.

Hobson is George Lucas' wife? Sorry, I haven't followed ownership stuff at all other than JR wanted his family to sell the team when he's gone.

Not getting at least one of Machado or Harper while you had a cheap young core locked up and had clear holes on the roster. Then, instead using the money on the likes of Yasmani Grandal and those types.

Do you project this team needing 4 years or less to compete? Because if you don't, you're not doing yourself any favors by not trading him.

You deal everyone who looks worth a cent, including Luis Robert.

At one point or another, yes, you want that prospect. But as time goes by, you're willing to deal that prospect for even a flawed player. Padres are great at showcasing their prospects and putting them in positions to succeed, but I would bet maybe 5 of their top 25 prospects over the past 3 years even pan out into + WAR players over the course of their careers. Look at Washington. They thought they got a haul for Soto.

I give it a D. Padres gave up prospects they "developed", but didn't want. If Cease pitches well, they could flip him again at the deadline. Sox were also adamant about top end talent. Doesn't feel like we got that. Lastly, when you're rebuilding, I'm always in the opinion that you trade star pitching for position players, because everyday players affect the season more than SP. Talks about Spencer Jones or Kjerstad, and we go Thorpe? Yeah, no.

A developer. I don't think that's too hard. They may sell it at a slight loss, but maybe not since the area is clear. You can start building on it almost immediately.

I think they end up selling Arlington Heights and are including that sale as part of the "We'll pony up 2 mil". And I think that's why it gets done. Even if the stadium is 4 billion to build, that's half. You would be lucky to get even a quarter of that from JR.

My guess is that the Bears and Sox were told to go work something out together (public info), then the Bears and Sox did. Sox probably tried their schtick with the Bears saying "Yeah, you let us use your cash and we'll lobby support behind whatever you want to do." Warren, who has done this before, said "yeah, no, this isn't going to work." and decided, we are just going to move along ourselves. I've always felt, the first to the table is the one that gets their stadium done with at least some public financing. The other one will get very little financing and probably doesn't end up building. Bears released this to the press on Sunday less than a week after they were going to try to work with the Sox. It's clear they're racing to the table. JR moves to the beat of his own drum, so I'm sure he's not panicking.

People want urban areas where they can do stuff pre-game and post game. While there is a contingent that like to tailgate, that’s simply what the younger generations want and that’s been proven. The river bed stuff is a failed argument. There’s a public park adjacent just south of the proposed stadium site called ping tom park. It’s good enough to have folks walking around, catching kayaks, etc, but the area next to it isn’t? Atlanta has a large office building in truist sightlines. Wrigleyville has had the rooftops. This wouldn’t be any different. With that stated, not “being inspired” by the renderings is subjective just like the rest of your post. The folks downstate actually like the renderings and the area. if the stadium isn’t built it has nothing to do with parking lots or how the renderings look. It’s purely money related.

See I think Sox fans (not you in particular) have a double standard. Pride ourselves in not supporting crap, but at the same time, we crap on those who aren't supporting the crap. I'm with whatever pushes JR to be out of the sports game fastest. Whether that's giving him his darn stadium to make it more attractive to sell the team, or losing out to take his ball and go home (via relocation or sale). You say he's 88 like he hasn't been stirring up more and more trouble. Now, he's willing to blame lack of attendance to potentially screw over tax payers as one of his final acts as if his product isn't complete and utter garbage. Lots of people liked the renderings. And what makes you think JR cares about "historical baseball architecture" when he's the one who greenlit Guaranteed Rate which looked like a parking garage and a baseball field had a baby the day it was thought of? Make no mistake, JR wants a new stadium and a new sweetheart deal from the city and state. There was already talk if him looking at the UC area or Soldier Field before the Related talk began. He also is friends with the developer.

Win.

I don't think it will happen. They don't draw enough in Bridgeview. That stadium in Bridgeview is pretty nice overall. At best, they'll have to share a stadium. If they drew heavy, then yes, they would most definitely have a seat at the table.