Kyyle23 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The biggest problem Fox has right now is you want to see Mitch against 1's, but Glennon NEEDS to play against 1's if he is going to succeed. Personally I don't think Glennon ever will, so Fox needs to decide this week what he is gonna do. Sanchez doesn't need reps, we know what he can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 My biggest beef is he still had Mitch playing against 3's whereas Mahomes, Watson (and likely Kizer) played against 2's. And this is when Trubisky was the best rookie QB week one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 It's clear they want to avoid a controversy. Only the Bears would sandbag a #2 overall pick for a free agent that only has one year of cap hits. If I were Pace I would be trying to get Fox out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Adam Jahns ✔ @adamjahns . @MarkPotash : Is there a way to work Trubisky in with 1s without it being an "affront" to Glennon?#Bears coach John Fox: "Probably not." hope that copied over well. Very tired of Glennon's mopey attitude. Not sure what more Bears coudl have done to put him in a position to win a battle aside from cutting all other QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I don't want to send Trubisky to the wolves, so Glennon is a needed piece right now, imo. If we play Trubisky too early, I think you do more harm then good. Maybe he overcomes it, maybe he doesn't. I'd much rather let Glennon go out and play mediocre (I hope he does well, but I think he can be mediocre) for a while until we aren't in contention. Trubisky has had more time to get reps, etc, and then turn things over to him (with lower expectations, etc and more prepared to play and read defenses). Putting someone out too soon could actually mean they regress because they aren't yet ready to learn. Trubisky isn't perfect, that said, he's shown a lot of skills that make you excited. We just need to calm that excited. I do think he needs to get more reps though (he got a ton in that 1st game...not enough in the 2nd). My presumption is he will get more reps in the 3rd game (probably play most of the 2nd half) and then get tons in the 4th game. And if Glennon is bad, then at least we've given Trubisky a few weeks on the sideline (and lowered expectations due to Glennon's poor play). And in the unlikely scenario that Glennon is really good...well I'll deal with that problem. I should point out that we should expect struggles...new system..new offense, minimal playmakers at the wide receiving position (somehow I hope White becomes good but I'm not holding my breath). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I just want to say, now that I watched the 2nd presason game, the thing I like most about Trubisky is how freaking accurate he is. He just seems to lead his receivers and backs perfectly. He still has to build reading defenses, etc., but from the small sample size, when he makes up his mind to throw, he throws the ball on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I just hate that he was relegated to 3rd team where he gets less reps during preseason. I want to see Trubisky take over after the bye week. I am unconvinced by the notion that sitting behind a QB for year 1 is this magic want that turns raw QBs into their highest ceiling. Good QBs are good because they can make adjustments during the game, during the season. The bears offensive line is good. They have a good running game. But they have a bunch of same-y receivers. That plays better into the game of a QB who goes through progressions well. That said, I think the Bears may actually be good this year. Good in the "we see the final pieces they need to be playoff team" good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well they obviously have low standards and are OK with repeated failure. http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lion...able/589373001/ Detroit Lions have 2nd most dateable fans in NFL, study says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 09:21 AM) I just hate that he was relegated to 3rd team where he gets less reps during preseason. I want to see Trubisky take over after the bye week. I am unconvinced by the notion that sitting behind a QB for year 1 is this magic want that turns raw QBs into their highest ceiling. Good QBs are good because they can make adjustments during the game, during the season. The bears offensive line is good. They have a good running game. But they have a bunch of same-y receivers. That plays better into the game of a QB who goes through progressions well. That said, I think the Bears may actually be good this year. Good in the "we see the final pieces they need to be playoff team" good. I just think there are key things a QB needs to be able to do so they can have learning moments. If we can only implement a small portion of the playbook, I think you are giving Trubisky a disservice in the process, vs. allowing him to get comfortable taking snaps, getting familiar with NFL preparation, etc. Even get to see Glennon go through adversity and challenges. It also positions the fan base to be in a better spot vs. throwing him in after a couple preseason games and expecting the world. We can't just play him in shotgun the whole time and if he isn't ready for the snap (Mike McCarthy had some good quotes talking about college QB prospects these days and how much they need to learn about just the basics...getting plays in / out, calling out the line protections, taking snaps from behind center, etc....before you even have to think about reading defenses, understanding the complex blitz schemes, etc. That takes time and you kind of need those basics down before you have enough to really be able to "learn" from your mistakes. Taking an elite A ball talent and putting him in AAA and letting him fail miserably probably doesn't teach him anything, because he isn't yet ready to comprehend/benefit from those teaching lessons. Having a good six or seven weeks to watch is not a bad thing, not at all. I can't see anything going sideways in Mitch's career from sitting 7 or 8 weeks and getting perspective. I could see things go sideways if he isn't ready, fumbles a ton of snaps, sucks massively, and loses confidence because he isn't prepared (and NFL D's know he doesn't have a full arsenal of plays to work through and can really lock him down). I see nothing but bad coming from that. Now that point is obviously an extreme, but I've heard from more then just McCarthy talk about the adjustments between college to pro's for most college QB prospects these days...and the reality is, it takes time to get those basic NFL pro-style offense traits down (this is to no fault of Trubisky). The spread flat out doesn't prepare you and to assume you can just pick it all up over a couple months of practice and be ready to actual learn from your challenges is just too aggressive a notion, imo. Bears D looks like it should be good, albeit, the CB play is still too weak and we still need another pass rusher + more playmakers. However, I like the direction it appears to be headed (at least with Bullard being a pre-season beast). Offense should be able to run the football, but we lack playmakers for the QB and that will impact the ground game to some extent (since we have no one who can stretch the field). Still....while we will likely have an awful year, I think we are headed in the right direction...of course Mitch being the guy to drive the car is a key piece to all of this (and having a deep ground game to help him and a solid defense would be nice...we do need to get him that flashy wideout though and hope Simms/Shaheen can be that piece from the TE perspective). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 How's the Bears O-line shaping up to start the season? That's the thing that terrifies me the most about throwing a rookie QB out there week 1 is that the teams drafting them highly usually have O-lines that are shaky at best, and that leaves the QB scrambling at the time when you need to simplify things for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Bears actually seem to have a pretty good OL. Maybe their strongest unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) Bears actually seem to have a pretty good OL. Maybe their strongest unit. If Kyle Long gets on the field, I'm getting worried about when that will happen. John Fox talks about injuries like Belichick does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 58m58 minutes ago #Bears still waiting for Pernell McPhee to be medically cleared http://cbsloc.al/2wjZYeM via @CEmma670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) Bears actually seem to have a pretty good OL. Maybe their strongest unit. If that holds together for a few weeks, then that sets them up to be able to play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Bears signed LT Charles Leno to a four-year, $38 million extension through 2020. A 2014 seventh-round pick, Leno has started 29-of-32 games the past two seasons. He was Pro Football Focus' No. 53 tackle out of 76 qualifiers last season after checking in at 49-of-76 the previous year. The Bears see upside in the soon-to-be 26-year-old and keep in tact the left side of their line. At $9.5 million per year, Leno is the league's 14th-highest-paid left tackle. This team is run by imbeciles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 That's a solid deal for Leno. Get out in front of the contract year and lock him up for his prime. That's not much $$ and they put some of it in this season and saved in future years. That's basically Right Tackle $$. Good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Unless the upfront money is insane, it is never a bad thing to lock a young guy up in the NFL. You can always dump them if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:08 PM) Unless the upfront money is insane, it is never a bad thing to lock a young guy up in the NFL. You can always dump them if not. And it's not like this will prevent them from making any other moves salary-cap wise. Sure, ideally your left tackle is better than Leno, but there is still room to find one if he fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:29 PM) And it's not like this will prevent them from making any other moves salary-cap wise. Sure, ideally your left tackle is better than Leno, but there is still room to find one if he fails. Or if a better one comes along, you move him down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 When was Leno set to be a free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:40 PM) When was Leno set to be a free agent? Not sure but I'm wondering if Fallon will take his job. I'll leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 You should stay and think about what you've done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 1m1 minute ago Mitchell Trubisky took some reps with #Bears' first-team offense today for the first time http://cbsloc.al/2xtxps3 via @CEmma670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Patrick FinleyVerified account @patrickfinley 17m17 minutes ago Ka'Deem Carey is out 6 weeks after having wrist surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 eureka. I hope Glennon isn't so distraught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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