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Dick Allen
post Dec 11, 2017 -> 09:52 PM
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Niko and Portis a fine 1-2 punch tonight.

Bulls no Niko. 3-20
Bulls with Niko. 3-0

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post Dec 11, 2017 -> 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 09:52 PM) *
Niko and Portis a fine 1-2 punch tonight.

Bulls no Niko. 3-20
Bulls with Niko. 3-0

I see what you did there.
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post Dec 11, 2017 -> 11:04 PM
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Celts just couldn’t put up a fight against the Bulls tonight.
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post Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:26 AM
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post Dec 12, 2017 -> 11:33 AM
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The f***ing Bulls with these pointless wins.
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post Dec 13, 2017 -> 08:58 PM
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I really respect how hard Lopez plays every night.
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post Dec 13, 2017 -> 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 08:58 PM) *
I really respect how hard Lopez plays every night.


Needs to be traded NOW
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Dick Allen
post Yesterday, 09:44 AM
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3-20 without Niko
4-0 with him.

f*** you Portis
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post Yesterday, 11:26 AM
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I said it a while back, when healthy this team is too good to tank. With a healthy Levine and team all season, I still think they are a borderline playoff team. Part of that is because Dunn has been far better then I expected him to be (as has Lauri).

Niko has looked fantastic. He's certainly added new aspects to his game this year. I could actually buy him being a much improved player (and it was part of why I liked his contract...from a value perspective). From a tank perspective, he kills the tank (as does Lopez).
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post Yesterday, 03:21 PM
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This team is still really bad as is, Niko isn't going to shoot 60 percent all year. The tank will be fine. Things do change a bit when Lavine comes back but you wait as long as possible to bring him back. Like make sure he's all the way healthy.
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They have streaks under hoiberg of looking really good but it's usually just a few hot 3pt shooting nights. Dunn is fine but their depth is still terrible in the backcourt and wings so I still think they will not be close to playoffs.
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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 01:21 PM) *
This team is still really bad as is, Niko isn't going to shoot 60 percent all year. The tank will be fine. Things do change a bit when Lavine comes back but you wait as long as possible to bring him back. Like make sure he's all the way healthy.

Maybe Niko will go back to sucking, but if you've watched his actual game, he's playing much different offensively. He's getting mid-range shots more then I've ever seen and he's also going down into the paint and using the extra strength he put up in the off-season a lot better. He's also getting much better form on his shot. He's always been a good shooter, but historically he'd rush his shot and get into bad footwork pre-shot which could impact his ability to consistently hit shots. Defensively Niko has become a pretty good defender. It is a really small sample size, but he's playing different and I think some of that could actually be a sign that a switch as flipped and he's emerging to be a better player. Lopez is a legitimate starting center, Niko is a legitimate player...Dunn is playing legitimate right now. Denzel / Holliday don't start for many teams but the depth in the bench is much improved. Portis is playing well and even Grant who I can't stand is much more effective as a bench player. Nwaba has been really solid. List goes on.

I didn't even mention Mark / Levine one of which is a rookie who has been more than capable as a starter and the other is a guy who pre-injury had proven to be a legitimate starter. This team is not a bottom 3-5 team when healthy (as currently constructed when healthy). It is closer to a bottom feeder playoff team in the east then it is a bottom 3 team in the NBA.
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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 01:21 PM) *
This team is still really bad as is, Niko isn't going to shoot 60 percent all year. The tank will be fine. Things do change a bit when Lavine comes back but you wait as long as possible to bring him back. Like make sure he's all the way healthy.

I'm not saying it is a good team either...there are just a lot of really bad teams out there and some bad to lousy teams are going to make the playoffs.
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post Yesterday, 06:26 PM
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Well I'm not going to sit here and argue about this. You can revisit this in a month or probably a week when they're playing awful again.

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post Yesterday, 09:20 PM
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The Bulls have to go 34-21 to finish .500 which was the winning percentage of the #8 seed in the East last year. I don't think playoffs are conceivably in the picture but they are better than I may have realized.

PG Kris Dunn
SG Zach Lavine
SF Niko/Valentine
PF Laurie Markkanen
C Robin Lopez

The starters aren't horrible. Definitely lacking depth though. That Butler trade is looking a lot better than I expected.
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