hi8is Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 If Paulino keeps stinking it up today - what are the odds that he gets sent down and Rienzo is called up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 07:51 PM) If Paulino keeps stinking it up today - what are the odds that he gets sent down and Rienzo is called up? Paulio has to go killing the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Release him. He's got nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Normally in a rebuilding year you hold on to guys but yeah, he's toast. Fastball ain't fast and the slow stuff just spins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 06:19 PM) Normally in a rebuilding year you hold on to guys but yeah, he's toast. Fastball ain't fastand the slow stuff just spins. I heard Hawk say on a pitch to Donnie Murphy that his fastball was 96. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 07:26 PM) I heard Hawk say on a pitch to Donnie Murphy that his fastball was 96. No movement, no breaking pitch to rely on. Doesn't matter how hard you throw if you're a 1 pitch pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 09:19 PM) Normally in a rebuilding year you hold on to guys but yeah, he's toast. Fastball ain't fast and the slow stuff just spins. Average fastball is over 93, so it should be fast enough to work. It just doesn't move at all and he can't control it. And like you said, his offspeed stuff doesn't have enough break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Watching the Texas game now, he isn't throwing many fastballs. The one I did notice was an 85mph fastball that sank. It was a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 But yeah I do recall now hearing that his velo was fine. Â I want to say try him out of the pen but that usually requires the ability to throw anything for strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) He was never a good minor leaguer. He was never a good major leaguer. Â He is 30 years old. Â There was no reason for anyone to believe he would do well going out of spring training. There is no reason for anyone to believe he will do anything from this point on. Â I don't ever want the Sox to lose, but I was hoping that if he was going to lose tonight, it would be the one to do him in. I bet he's gone after tonight. Edited April 19, 2014 by Markbilliards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 He's got to go. Geez there has to be somebody who can take the hill as a fifth starter who doesn't get lit up like this. Are there any Freddie Garcia reclamation projects pitching in independent ball? This is embarrassing to trot him out there as an MLB starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure Rienzo has earned it with his performance so far in the minors so far this season, but there might be no choice with another start or two like that. Â It's not like they're going to go out and make a trade. They might pick up one of those reclamation veterans, but those guys are going to need their own version of spring training to get up to speed...at least 3 weeks. Â Rienzo, Surkamp, Beck...they might as well throw a dart against the wall and see whose picture they hit with the toss. Edited April 19, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I'm so happy that I wasn't able to get near a tv or radio for today's s*** show. I wish they would have just kept Floyd on some sort of incentive laden deal (despite the fact that he's not pitching until sometime in May). Atlanta didn't exactly open the vault to Fort Knox to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Simon was dumped by the Orioles, for example, and has become one of the better pitchers in the early MLB season. Â Sometimes you get a Quintana or Sale, other times you swing and whiff on these types of deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glangon Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Paulino is rotten, worse than Axelrod was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 It boggled my mind then, it boggles my mind now, how anyone could have thought this guy was going to be effective was beyond me. He made 5 minor league starts last year and they were very similar to his results this season. He was still coming off a serious injury and was going to be rusty any way you slice it. Finally, he wasn't very good to begin with. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (glangon @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 06:26 AM) Paulino is rotten, worse than Axelrod was. Â Speaking of Axelrod; there is your 5Th starter. He's a serviceable RHP, and can eat some innings, thus saving the pen. On occasion, he can throw a pretty decent game, and isn't horrible the rest of the time. I can't imagine the Sox adding yet one more left handed starter to the rotation. They desperately need a RHP. Thank goodness Johnson showed such significant improvement in his last start, after some adjustments he made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Paulino might just be one of the worst starting pitchers I have seen pitch wearing a Sox uniform. The dude is BAD. It's time for the Sox to cut their losses. They took a chance on the guy, and it didn't pay off. I'm not blaming the Sox for taking a chance. I mean, it did work when they took risks on guys like Loaiza and even Humber for a short while. But if the guy can't produce, we MUST look into the next option. It appears as if Axelrod or Rienzo will be heading the list for the next guy up. Â Do the right thing, Hahn- cut Paulino now. Edited April 19, 2014 by GreatScott82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 07:36 AM) It boggled my mind then, it boggles my mind now, how anyone could have thought this guy was going to be effective was beyond me. He made 5 minor league starts last year and they were very similar to his results this season. He was still coming off a serious injury and was going to be rusty any way you slice it. Finally, he wasn't very good to begin with. I agree... I thought this whole Paulino experiment was a bit odd to me. Perhaps Coop thought he could have pulled off a miracle? Regardless, theirs scouts really botched this one. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Who would have thought that Eric Stults would end up being the second best pitcher the White Sox have let go...after Gio Gonzalez? Â Well, I guess you have to count Peavy in there two, so 3rd. Â He's had a very solid/quiet/effective career at PetCo. Now could he have put up anything resembling those same numbers at USCF, it's doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (Lillian @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 08:01 AM) QUOTE (glangon @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 06:26 AM) Paulino is rotten, worse than Axelrod was. Â Speaking of Axelrod; there is your 5Th starter. He's a serviceable RHP, and can eat some innings, thus saving the pen. On occasion, he can throw a pretty decent game, and isn't horrible the rest of the time. I can't imagine the Sox adding yet one more left handed starter to the rotation. They desperately need a RHP. Thank goodness Johnson showed such significant improvement in his last start, after some adjustments he made. Â Are you serious? Did you not watch axelrod last season?? Â HOT. GARBAGE. Might as well throw Paulino back out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 If we use Axelrod all season, we actually might end up with the lowest attendance in MLB this year. Â That's not going to happen. Sacrificial long man, fine, whatever. Not a part of the rotation equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 08:18 AM) I agree... I thought this whole Paulino experiment was a bit odd to me. Perhaps Coop thought he could have pulled off a miracle? Regardless, theirs scouts really botched this one. Time to move on. I didn't have a problem with the signing per se, it just some of the expectations on this board. Not only did they expect him to be good after basically missing a year, many thought he would be better than he has ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 08:36 AM) If we use Axelrod all season, we actually might end up with the lowest attendance in MLB this year. That's not going to happen. Sacrificial long man, fine, whatever. Not a part of the rotation equation. Bring up Reinzo and hope for the best. We are pretty thin in options at this point of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 08:42 AM) Bring up Reinzo and hope for the best. We are pretty thin in options at this point of the season. It seems to be the best option, and it probably isn't a good one. This is like shades of the early 2000s where the one starter is just a huge problem. Â It's one thing to count that spot as almost a guaranteed loss, but they need to find someone that will at least get them through the fifth or sixth inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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